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<blockquote data-quote="Larrin" data-source="post: 4071035" data-attributes="member: 55816"><p>Considering that he practically fell over himself explaining how incredibly optional builds were, and how it isn't the first "starting package" or "sample build" to ever show up in D&D, AND that one of the stated goals is to make things easy to learn, AND that following a theme is probably an easy way for developers to create consistent progressive powers, I think that despair over the word "builds" appearing in the PHB is a reflexisve reaction that really isn't justified. Really, how can giving an example of a purely optional build possibly get in the way of the experienced player? It can't. Did the example Bloodhound in Complete Adventurer ruin a players ability to never use this class ever? NO! Now lets ask how can NOT having a suggested build get in the way of a new player....Well it can. maybe. Could even an experienced player look at a build and say "You know, i want to make a quick character, i'll just follow the build and role play his uniqueness" Maybe, but apparently he's risking ending the world to do so.</p><p></p><p>As for splatbook proliferation of Builds....all splat books had two types of additions; ones that fed into a pretty specific build and ones that really came out of no where and had no real use. 4e they're just admitting that lots of powers follow a theme, and if you want to follow this theme, here is a guide. If anything it could actually focus their creation of powers so they aren't so willy-nilly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Larrin, post: 4071035, member: 55816"] Considering that he practically fell over himself explaining how incredibly optional builds were, and how it isn't the first "starting package" or "sample build" to ever show up in D&D, AND that one of the stated goals is to make things easy to learn, AND that following a theme is probably an easy way for developers to create consistent progressive powers, I think that despair over the word "builds" appearing in the PHB is a reflexisve reaction that really isn't justified. Really, how can giving an example of a purely optional build possibly get in the way of the experienced player? It can't. Did the example Bloodhound in Complete Adventurer ruin a players ability to never use this class ever? NO! Now lets ask how can NOT having a suggested build get in the way of a new player....Well it can. maybe. Could even an experienced player look at a build and say "You know, i want to make a quick character, i'll just follow the build and role play his uniqueness" Maybe, but apparently he's risking ending the world to do so. As for splatbook proliferation of Builds....all splat books had two types of additions; ones that fed into a pretty specific build and ones that really came out of no where and had no real use. 4e they're just admitting that lots of powers follow a theme, and if you want to follow this theme, here is a guide. If anything it could actually focus their creation of powers so they aren't so willy-nilly. [/QUOTE]
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