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<blockquote data-quote="Kmart Kommando" data-source="post: 4407901" data-attributes="member: 39915"><p>yes, the shapeshifter variant.</p><p></p><p>he says Shapeshifting =/= Wildshape at all, so none of the PrCs for druids are open to the variant. and Wildling Clasps don't work either, so you shift, and your AC and saves tank, (saves are critical here, since everyone is more powerful than anyone in the party) and you can't cast any animal boosting spells on yourself, because you're not an animal when you can cast the spells, so you're not a valid target. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> (much like the Magic Missile/Mirror Image hokey).</p><p></p><p></p><p>When I made my first character for this game, I wanted to be a Warblade, but there already was one, and my stats were too low to go TWF with him anyway. I made a Swordsage instead, the monk variant. First fight, I toss the 6d6 fireball, the single target range touch one. the DM is like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> 'how are you throwing a fireball?!!!11' meanwhile, same combat, the Warmage tosses a Sudden Empowered Fireball, then another Warmage-like blasty spell. So I'm like <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" />.</p><p></p><p>We had 2 PC deaths last game, and the only healing I got was from a wand, from the Cleric, (that I bought, no less) and I drank a lvl 1 potion. Did I mention this was the only fight so far that day?</p><p></p><p>If there weren't some of my friends there, and I wasn't running a game on a different night, I'd be running one myself. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p></p><p>Oh, almost forgot, a while back, there was this monster that did some sort of sonic damage scream. Not a big deal, but it must've also been a master mason or something, because it appeared, the melee part of the party charged, and it was standing a patch of ground that was just big enough for it to stand on, and the rest of the tunnel floor collapses from its scream, a perfect 50ft deep pit, and the party falls in the pit. no save. at all. then we start climbing back up. we get hit again by the scream. concentration checks to avoid falling. no climb checks. I maxed out concentration, but roll crappy and fall, again (did I mention I had a climb speed at the time, and would've made the climb check easily anyway?), none of the casters are in the pit anyway. one guy gets out of the pit. the casters are running around doing nothing on the other side of the pit. except maybe sealing off the tunnel so they can get away. "hey, let's cast silence" "hey, let's stoneshape a walkway over here", <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/worried.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":-S" title="Uhm :-S" data-shortname=":-S" /> says me, 'how about, I don't know, a fireball?', my character gets out of the pit. and takes more scream damage. down and bleeding out. bard heals me a bit, also can't use a Healing Belt, even with UMD, Warblade kills the monster. casters take another hour real time to figure out how to get across the pit.</p><p></p><p>Maybe I should make a 'make me a blaster caster build' thread. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /></p><p></p><p>DM: "you see a monster appear.."</p><p>me: "I kill it...next?"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kmart Kommando, post: 4407901, member: 39915"] yes, the shapeshifter variant. he says Shapeshifting =/= Wildshape at all, so none of the PrCs for druids are open to the variant. and Wildling Clasps don't work either, so you shift, and your AC and saves tank, (saves are critical here, since everyone is more powerful than anyone in the party) and you can't cast any animal boosting spells on yourself, because you're not an animal when you can cast the spells, so you're not a valid target. :confused: (much like the Magic Missile/Mirror Image hokey). When I made my first character for this game, I wanted to be a Warblade, but there already was one, and my stats were too low to go TWF with him anyway. I made a Swordsage instead, the monk variant. First fight, I toss the 6d6 fireball, the single target range touch one. the DM is like :eek: 'how are you throwing a fireball?!!!11' meanwhile, same combat, the Warmage tosses a Sudden Empowered Fireball, then another Warmage-like blasty spell. So I'm like :hmm:. We had 2 PC deaths last game, and the only healing I got was from a wand, from the Cleric, (that I bought, no less) and I drank a lvl 1 potion. Did I mention this was the only fight so far that day? If there weren't some of my friends there, and I wasn't running a game on a different night, I'd be running one myself. :erm: Oh, almost forgot, a while back, there was this monster that did some sort of sonic damage scream. Not a big deal, but it must've also been a master mason or something, because it appeared, the melee part of the party charged, and it was standing a patch of ground that was just big enough for it to stand on, and the rest of the tunnel floor collapses from its scream, a perfect 50ft deep pit, and the party falls in the pit. no save. at all. then we start climbing back up. we get hit again by the scream. concentration checks to avoid falling. no climb checks. I maxed out concentration, but roll crappy and fall, again (did I mention I had a climb speed at the time, and would've made the climb check easily anyway?), none of the casters are in the pit anyway. one guy gets out of the pit. the casters are running around doing nothing on the other side of the pit. except maybe sealing off the tunnel so they can get away. "hey, let's cast silence" "hey, let's stoneshape a walkway over here", :-S says me, 'how about, I don't know, a fireball?', my character gets out of the pit. and takes more scream damage. down and bleeding out. bard heals me a bit, also can't use a Healing Belt, even with UMD, Warblade kills the monster. casters take another hour real time to figure out how to get across the pit. Maybe I should make a 'make me a blaster caster build' thread. :] DM: "you see a monster appear.." me: "I kill it...next?" [/QUOTE]
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