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<blockquote data-quote="kitcik" data-source="post: 5679664" data-attributes="member: 98256">Bad news: I am not the top caster-builder, by far. Dandu or others I am sure will comment when they are awake.Good news: I know broken when I see it.This is basically like gestalt and if you forgo some bells and whistles you could even triple gestalt.100 points: full wizard and cleric spellcastingShould he buy another class' abilities? I mean, for 50 he could get the full abilities of a non-caster progression class or PrC with abilities that are broken with a dual full caster. Maybe like Warblade - take defensive stuff like Iron Heart Surge and build towards White Raven Tactics? Anyway, someone will think of the most broken combo.Enough skill points to keep Concentration and Spellcraft maxed, with some knowledges thrown in.All the good metamagic feats, eventually taking Arcane Thesis multiple times for extreme brokenness.Be an anthropomorphic bat (Savage Species).Max Int &amp; Wis, some Con, dump Dex, Str, Cha?Bump saves as you can (this is one reason not to add another class' abilities - you would have plenty to spend on saves each level.Anyway, that is a first pass. This will be an insane character.__________________</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kitcik, post: 5679664, member: 98256"] Bad news: I am not the top caster-builder, by far. Dandu or others I am sure will comment when they are awake. Good news: I know broken when I see it. This is basically like gestalt and if you forgo some bells and whistles you could even triple gestalt. 100 points: full wizard and cleric spellcasting Should he buy another class' abilities? I mean, for 50 he could get the full abilities of a non-caster progression class or PrC with abilities that are broken with a dual full caster. Maybe like Warblade - take defensive stuff like Iron Heart Surge and build towards White Raven Tactics? Anyway, someone will think of the most broken combo. Enough skill points to keep Concentration and Spellcraft maxed, with some knowledges thrown in. All the good metamagic feats, eventually taking Arcane Thesis multiple times for extreme brokenness. Be an anthropomorphic bat (Savage Species). Max Int & Wis, some Con, dump Dex, Str, Cha? Bump saves as you can (this is one reason not to add another class' abilities - you would have plenty to spend on saves each level. Anyway, that is a first pass. This will be an insane character. __________________ [/QUOTE]

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