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<blockquote data-quote="Omand" data-source="post: 8812264" data-attributes="member: 14344">Demigod is perhaps one way of looking at Sauron's power level, but if you look at LotR as a whole he is a fallen angel.He is not a Lich, ever.&nbsp; Again, at least in the LotR legendarium.&nbsp; In D&amp;D terms you might consider that one way of approximating some of his character, but the One Ring is much more complex than a simple repository for Sauron's soul (and a discussion on the status of his soul would fill pages and pages).&nbsp; Sauron is far beyond any Lich as written up in D&amp;D.Saying Sauron died and resurrected twice is also far too simplistic a take on this.He was disembodied and de-powered twice, but did not die.&nbsp; As a fallen angel he is a spiritual being, not an incarnate.&nbsp; He can lose the form he is in but was never in danger of being forced back to Valinor because his spirit was not willing.And Necromancer is a title for him, not a class in the LotR legendarium.&nbsp; It was an alias when &quot;the good&quot; did not know who they were facing.You cannot map most of Sauron's powers to existing spells in D&amp;D.&nbsp; As [USER=6909860]@Uni-the-Unicorn![/USER] has pointed out, direct comparisons between the two systems are not really possible.If you want to stat Sauron up, use the base you have started with, but understand that you will have to do a lot of custom design work (most of your spells asked about in Post #24 at the scale Sauron works with, for example).Cheers <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Omand, post: 8812264, member: 14344"] Demigod is perhaps one way of looking at Sauron's power level, but if you look at LotR as a whole he is a fallen angel. He is not a Lich, ever. Again, at least in the LotR legendarium. In D&D terms you might consider that one way of approximating some of his character, but the One Ring is much more complex than a simple repository for Sauron's soul (and a discussion on the status of his soul would fill pages and pages). Sauron is far beyond any Lich as written up in D&D. Saying Sauron died and resurrected twice is also far too simplistic a take on this. He was disembodied and de-powered twice, but did not die. As a fallen angel he is a spiritual being, not an incarnate. He can lose the form he is in but was never in danger of being forced back to Valinor because his spirit was not willing. And Necromancer is a title for him, not a class in the LotR legendarium. It was an alias when "the good" did not know who they were facing. You cannot map most of Sauron's powers to existing spells in D&D. As [USER=6909860]@Uni-the-Unicorn![/USER] has pointed out, direct comparisons between the two systems are not really possible. If you want to stat Sauron up, use the base you have started with, but understand that you will have to do a lot of custom design work (most of your spells asked about in Post #24 at the scale Sauron works with, for example). Cheers :) [/QUOTE]

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