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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MongooseFamiliar" data-source="post: 3985127" data-attributes="member: 48667">*sigh* This conversation pains me.The reason you want to take one level of something before level 7 as a Beguiler is to delay your advanced learning, opening up higher-level spells. That way you can get Shadow Conjuration at that level, which you can't if you go straight Beguiler.Also, the Mindbender 1 telepathy lets you communicate with anything that has a language. That doesn't suck.Another great option for the 1-level delay trick is Shadow Adept. The feats are very, very nice for a Beguiler.There are more tips on the links below. I'd also suggest familiarizing yourself with illusions, since glamers and figments work on undead and golems, which your mind affecting spells will not. Also, a whip or other reach weapon will let you be in melee with opponents while staying mostly out of their reach. (You don't have to be proficient to feint with it, and you don't take the non-proficient -4 for feinting)<a href="http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=805782" target="_blank">http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=805782</a><a href="http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=635691" target="_blank">http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=635691</a></blockquote>