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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hawk Diesel" data-source="post: 7182326" data-attributes="member: 59848">Well I appreciate the feedback and I look forward to what you have to say regarding the final part of my post. In the meantimeI'll respond to what you've said thus far.This is my thought as well, and it's pretty obvious I used the Rogue as a basis for comparison. I have previously noticed how the archetypes developed for the Rogue share a similar design philosophy to the Fighter  (One simple, one a bit more advanced/thematic, and the magic user), but yet we don't hear nearly the outcry about the Rogue archetypes as you hear about the fighter. I am beginning to think this lies not with the archetype but with the core class.Especially given that feats are technically an optional rule, this just makes sense to me.My thoughts as well. Monks get proficiency in every save AND can reroll saves (using their good saver mod). Between this and the max 3/long rest of my adjusted Indomitable, seems about equivalent. I forgot about the 9th level spells. Excellent point!I wonder about this too. Not sure honestly. I think it would be fine based on how my table plays. But most tables won't get high enough level to more than one or two per days, which is fine.I agree that Know Your Enemy is a neat ability and allows the fighter some of that social interation. But honestly as a DM, you don't need an outright ability like this to size up and opponent, just to make sure you get it accurately. I know this contradicts what I said earlier in reference to the Shrewd Fighting. But when you compare this ability to the other abilities given to the other archetypes at this level, it is far too limited to provide any real use and is the only one with any measurable mechanical benefit. I pondered allowing a player to use it after one round of combat observation and allowing their first attack against that target to have advantage until the end of combat, but I felt that was overly complicated and clunky.</blockquote>

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