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<blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 4488594" data-attributes="member: 1164"><p>Then she is not CR11. She would be a CR 9, with gear of a 9th level NPC character.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/improvingMonsters.htm#addingClassLevels" target="_blank">Improving Monsters :: d20srd.org</a></p><p><em>"A spellcasting class is an associated class for a creature that already has the ability to cast spells as a character of the class in question, since the monster’s levels in the spellcasting class stack with its innate spellcasting ability."</em></p><p></p><p>Is referring to a monster like a Naga or a Nymph who have full on spellcasting, not just a few <em>spell like abilities</em> as the green hag..</p><p></p><p>Be <em>cautious</em> with the Non associated class levels concept. It was written before the <em>Sudden Metamagic</em> and <em>Practiced Spellcaster</em> feats were written up. Doing a quick playtest with the critter can help see what cr the critter really is. Notably cleric levels past 6th can basically ruin the non associated concept since that where divine power rears it's broken head.</p><p></p><p>But on the other hand if your players build overly strong characters with splat material, the monsters must do the same to keep in line with their CRs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="frankthedm, post: 4488594, member: 1164"] Then she is not CR11. She would be a CR 9, with gear of a 9th level NPC character. [url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/improvingMonsters.htm#addingClassLevels]Improving Monsters :: d20srd.org[/url] [I]"A spellcasting class is an associated class for a creature that already has the ability to cast spells as a character of the class in question, since the monster’s levels in the spellcasting class stack with its innate spellcasting ability."[/I] Is referring to a monster like a Naga or a Nymph who have full on spellcasting, not just a few [I]spell like abilities[/I] as the green hag.. Be [I]cautious[/I] with the Non associated class levels concept. It was written before the [I]Sudden Metamagic[/I] and [I]Practiced Spellcaster[/I] feats were written up. Doing a quick playtest with the critter can help see what cr the critter really is. Notably cleric levels past 6th can basically ruin the non associated concept since that where divine power rears it's broken head. But on the other hand if your players build overly strong characters with splat material, the monsters must do the same to keep in line with their CRs. [/QUOTE]
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