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<blockquote data-quote="Gladius Legis" data-source="post: 7176437" data-attributes="member: 68748"><p>The PHB Ranger is a lost cause, which is why WOTC is working on a revision.</p><p></p><p>Thankfully, the most recent revision in UA is a few giant steps in the right direction. Any suggestions I'd have will be based on that revision.</p><p></p><p>I'd definitely recommend archetype ("domain") spells retrofitted for all previous Ranger archetypes. So, Hunter and Beast Conclave, which still don't have them. And even for the archetypes that do have them, I'd really like to see them get two spells per level (like mellored seemed to suggest).</p><p></p><p>The 5th-level Conclave feature might as well just get reverted to Extra Attack since every Ranger archetype gets that instead of the Beast Conclave. And really, the Beast Conclave should get it, too, in case the beast is somehow unavailable so that a Ranger isn't completely helpless in that situation. Just add the Coordinated Attack part in the main entry (3rd level) for the Beast as such: "Once you gain the Extra Attack class feature, you may choose to forego your extra attacks when taking the Attack action on your turn. If you do, your companion, if it can see you, can use its reaction to make a melee attack."</p><p></p><p>Greater Favored Enemy's advantage vs. saves should apply to the original Favored Enemy as well. Probably an oversight.</p><p></p><p>The one step back the revised Ranger took was no longer being able to get double proficiency on certain skill and ability checks. I'd like to see that make a return in some form. Wouldn't mind straight-up Expertise to be honest, later than when the Rogue gets it. (Maybe Lv. 3 and 10 like the Bard?)</p><p></p><p>The capstone, while actually effective from a pure combat standpoint being applied now to all enemies, still doesn't feel ... Rangery? And all of a sudden at Lv. 20 introduces WIS where it hadn't really mattered before aside from a few spells. That one might need to get changed somehow ... they could go several different directions on that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gladius Legis, post: 7176437, member: 68748"] The PHB Ranger is a lost cause, which is why WOTC is working on a revision. Thankfully, the most recent revision in UA is a few giant steps in the right direction. Any suggestions I'd have will be based on that revision. I'd definitely recommend archetype ("domain") spells retrofitted for all previous Ranger archetypes. So, Hunter and Beast Conclave, which still don't have them. And even for the archetypes that do have them, I'd really like to see them get two spells per level (like mellored seemed to suggest). The 5th-level Conclave feature might as well just get reverted to Extra Attack since every Ranger archetype gets that instead of the Beast Conclave. And really, the Beast Conclave should get it, too, in case the beast is somehow unavailable so that a Ranger isn't completely helpless in that situation. Just add the Coordinated Attack part in the main entry (3rd level) for the Beast as such: "Once you gain the Extra Attack class feature, you may choose to forego your extra attacks when taking the Attack action on your turn. If you do, your companion, if it can see you, can use its reaction to make a melee attack." Greater Favored Enemy's advantage vs. saves should apply to the original Favored Enemy as well. Probably an oversight. The one step back the revised Ranger took was no longer being able to get double proficiency on certain skill and ability checks. I'd like to see that make a return in some form. Wouldn't mind straight-up Expertise to be honest, later than when the Rogue gets it. (Maybe Lv. 3 and 10 like the Bard?) The capstone, while actually effective from a pure combat standpoint being applied now to all enemies, still doesn't feel ... Rangery? And all of a sudden at Lv. 20 introduces WIS where it hadn't really mattered before aside from a few spells. That one might need to get changed somehow ... they could go several different directions on that. [/QUOTE]
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