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<blockquote data-quote="Azazyll" data-source="post: 1488485" data-attributes="member: 4367"><p>Check out Monte Cooke's Arcana Unearthed, he combined all magic into one list and just divided the spells into simple, complex, and exotic for each level. most casters can only access the simple spells, except the magisters, who get complex spells as well. greenbonds (the AU druid/priest/shamans) cast complex spells with the plant and healing descriptors. accessing an exotic spell requires a feat. the same system might work outside the setting for what you're looking at, although Monte tested it for working within his won system and not with standard classes, I believe. It's still a good starting point to work with. maybe taking a feat to gain access to different types of spells would work. It depends on how much work you want to do.</p><p></p><p>On a side note, the fantasy RPG idea of seperate divine and arcance magic is a fundamental flaw in the game, and I've never liked it. One man's prayer is another man's spell, and generally throughout history western civilization has condemned as magic what other people called prayer and religion. Magic begins as prayers to the gods, as witnessed in Egypt and elsewhere. Modern fantacists have, for politically correct reasons, differentiated between the two, to allow wizards to exist without being priests in the traditional christian sense without also being evil satanists. But even looking at tolkien, magic is a prayer to the Valar or to other powers that exist, not exactly a seperate power in and of itself. Magic users who don't use elvish prayers to the Valar are either maiar spirits themselves, like saruman or sauron, or have some connection to them, like orc shamans and the nazgul. But tolkien certainly does confuse the issue, first by not making it explicit and second by not following his own rules. If you could even call them rules. But then in some ways the entire lord of the rings and certainly large parts of the silmarillion are christian metaphors written by a remarkably devout catholic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Azazyll, post: 1488485, member: 4367"] Check out Monte Cooke's Arcana Unearthed, he combined all magic into one list and just divided the spells into simple, complex, and exotic for each level. most casters can only access the simple spells, except the magisters, who get complex spells as well. greenbonds (the AU druid/priest/shamans) cast complex spells with the plant and healing descriptors. accessing an exotic spell requires a feat. the same system might work outside the setting for what you're looking at, although Monte tested it for working within his won system and not with standard classes, I believe. It's still a good starting point to work with. maybe taking a feat to gain access to different types of spells would work. It depends on how much work you want to do. On a side note, the fantasy RPG idea of seperate divine and arcance magic is a fundamental flaw in the game, and I've never liked it. One man's prayer is another man's spell, and generally throughout history western civilization has condemned as magic what other people called prayer and religion. Magic begins as prayers to the gods, as witnessed in Egypt and elsewhere. Modern fantacists have, for politically correct reasons, differentiated between the two, to allow wizards to exist without being priests in the traditional christian sense without also being evil satanists. But even looking at tolkien, magic is a prayer to the Valar or to other powers that exist, not exactly a seperate power in and of itself. Magic users who don't use elvish prayers to the Valar are either maiar spirits themselves, like saruman or sauron, or have some connection to them, like orc shamans and the nazgul. But tolkien certainly does confuse the issue, first by not making it explicit and second by not following his own rules. If you could even call them rules. But then in some ways the entire lord of the rings and certainly large parts of the silmarillion are christian metaphors written by a remarkably devout catholic. [/QUOTE]
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