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<blockquote data-quote="Shadow64" data-source="post: 693235" data-attributes="member: 6868"><p>One of my problem with PrCs is that people seem to multiclass in <em>those</em> more so then with normal classes. How many examples have you seen on the boards (both Smackdown threads and non-Smackdown threads) with one or two base classes and two or three prestige classes.</p><p></p><p>Yes, I can see some stuff where multiple prcs can fit, other times I can't. Especially when i *know* the reason they are taking the various prcs is to combine all the special abilites to do some uber-tactic(s). I shouldn't leave myself out of this group, because i'm guilty of it everyonce in a while.</p><p></p><p><strong>Rant On</strong></p><p></p><p>It seems lots of people will jump up and start to "rules-lawyer" when you start to think about a third base class; ie - remind you about the xp hits (which if i recall is the only hit you take when you multiclass about two base classes).</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, few say anything if you start to think about a second PrC. About the most I've heard at the various tables i've gamed at is "do you fit the requirements" and if they meet the reqs then it's ok.</p><p></p><p>I think this mentallity comes from the fact that in the RAW it states that while you take penalties from multiclassing with base classes, but you don't take any penalties from taking multiple PrCs (as long as the PrCs don't conflict at all).</p><p></p><p>This is a problem.</p><p></p><p><strong>Rant Off</strong></p><p></p><p>Now that i've had that little rant here's something I've been thinking about doing: Limiting PrC-class taking abilites by using the characters INT bonus as a limiter. You could take at least one PrC (i see no reason to not allow someone to take at least 1(PrC), but after that you need to be smart enough to take any more PrCs. I mean, you can have the best sword arm in the lands, but if you are dumb as rocks you might have a problem being a Sword Swinger PrC, a Battle Rager Prc, Tough as Nails PrC as well as a Destroyer of all Things Evil Prc. That's a lot of knowledge to cram into your braincase.</p><p></p><p>I'm still working on the "systemese" of something like that for D&D. While my gut says that since INT is supposed to be the general "brainy-ness" it seems it would hurt most of the classes (since really only the wizard if i recall uses that as a prime stat). It would probably be a bit more easier with D20 modern and it's archetypes (sp?). Maybe grouping it by "prime" stat for each class (STR for fighters and barbs, WIS for Clr, Drd, Pal, Monk, CHA for Sorcers, Int for Wiz and Rog) would be better.</p><p></p><p>Like I said, still working on it.</p><p></p><p>Or, I could just go with Rule 0. Maybe 2 Base and 2 PrCs. That's it. Whine and Complain to much and you can only use the Core Books for Classes and PrCs. Maybe the splat books if I'm in a good mood.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadow64, post: 693235, member: 6868"] One of my problem with PrCs is that people seem to multiclass in [I]those[/I] more so then with normal classes. How many examples have you seen on the boards (both Smackdown threads and non-Smackdown threads) with one or two base classes and two or three prestige classes. Yes, I can see some stuff where multiple prcs can fit, other times I can't. Especially when i *know* the reason they are taking the various prcs is to combine all the special abilites to do some uber-tactic(s). I shouldn't leave myself out of this group, because i'm guilty of it everyonce in a while. [B]Rant On[/B] It seems lots of people will jump up and start to "rules-lawyer" when you start to think about a third base class; ie - remind you about the xp hits (which if i recall is the only hit you take when you multiclass about two base classes). On the other hand, few say anything if you start to think about a second PrC. About the most I've heard at the various tables i've gamed at is "do you fit the requirements" and if they meet the reqs then it's ok. I think this mentallity comes from the fact that in the RAW it states that while you take penalties from multiclassing with base classes, but you don't take any penalties from taking multiple PrCs (as long as the PrCs don't conflict at all). This is a problem. [B]Rant Off[/B] Now that i've had that little rant here's something I've been thinking about doing: Limiting PrC-class taking abilites by using the characters INT bonus as a limiter. You could take at least one PrC (i see no reason to not allow someone to take at least 1(PrC), but after that you need to be smart enough to take any more PrCs. I mean, you can have the best sword arm in the lands, but if you are dumb as rocks you might have a problem being a Sword Swinger PrC, a Battle Rager Prc, Tough as Nails PrC as well as a Destroyer of all Things Evil Prc. That's a lot of knowledge to cram into your braincase. I'm still working on the "systemese" of something like that for D&D. While my gut says that since INT is supposed to be the general "brainy-ness" it seems it would hurt most of the classes (since really only the wizard if i recall uses that as a prime stat). It would probably be a bit more easier with D20 modern and it's archetypes (sp?). Maybe grouping it by "prime" stat for each class (STR for fighters and barbs, WIS for Clr, Drd, Pal, Monk, CHA for Sorcers, Int for Wiz and Rog) would be better. Like I said, still working on it. Or, I could just go with Rule 0. Maybe 2 Base and 2 PrCs. That's it. Whine and Complain to much and you can only use the Core Books for Classes and PrCs. Maybe the splat books if I'm in a good mood. [/QUOTE]
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