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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 3377318" data-attributes="member: 14506">Your right I do! Like I said in the original post I am spending entirely too much time making characters. I am not sure how others make characters but I generally think of a character concept and then try to mish mash the most effective character combo into my concept. For instance my latest character (for an ebberon game) was a 1/2 orc warblade2/transmuter4/jade phoenix mage1. Doesn't sound blatantly powerful on the surface until you throw shocktrooper, powerattack and arcane strike and the host of other crazy abilities on top of that. Even at my level of powergaming, I felt like I was cheating. I could hit for like 100 damage! @ level 7. Not bad. I didn't want my character to be that effective really I just wanted to try some combinations and just make a cool new fighter/magic-user character.So yeah, my problem is when I play the game I like to have the most effective planned out character I can make. I know I am not alone on this because the three groups I have played with recently have all been this way. One group in particular was more about optimization than story, than roleplaying, or even weenie fights. Rush through to the biggest encounters and lets see what your builds can do. Let me tell you their where some entirely way too broken of characters in that game. My 70 AC was way out done. And that character took so many revisions and my ~300 damage per round if I hit with everything was pretty inconsequential. His touch attacks were so fake.</blockquote>

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