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<blockquote data-quote="Systole" data-source="post: 5634951" data-attributes="member: 93930">Not to speak for Treantmonk, but I imagine he didn't feel like taking the time. I, on the other hand, am an Excel genius, somewhat OCD, and very bored at work today. (See below.) I also imagine he chose level 5 at a simple midpoint rather than for any sinister reason.&nbsp;To your point, it's actually not even close to doable at that stage.&nbsp; It's sort of possible at (a) wizard level 2 and (b) wizard level 19-20. Even so, at level 20, being a spell completionist means blowing about 90% of your wealth on spells.&nbsp; A bit less considering the freebies.&nbsp;At wizard level 10 (which was the point in question), spell levels 1-5 represent more than twice your WBL. It's even not possible for a wizard 10 to EITHER grab all of spell levels 1-4 OR to grab all of spell level 5 -- both of those are out of reach. Looking at the chart, that's about par for the course. &nbsp;Honestly, if you're going to criticize Treantmonk for twisting the facts, you might have at least looked at the facts before shooting off a bunch of assumptions. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[code][FONT=Fixedsys]Sp.&nbsp; &nbsp; #&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $/&nbsp;&nbsp; Tot.$/&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Cum.&nbsp;&nbsp; Wiz.[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]Lvl.&nbsp; Sp.&nbsp; &nbsp; Scr.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Scr.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Tot.&nbsp;&nbsp; Lvl.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; WBL[/FONT]&nbsp;[FONT=Fixedsys]1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 75&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1875&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1875&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3000[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]2&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 100&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 200&nbsp; &nbsp; 20000&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 21875&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 10500[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 95&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 450&nbsp; &nbsp; 42750&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 64625&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 33000[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 80&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 800&nbsp; &nbsp; 64000&nbsp; &nbsp; 128625&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 62000[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 80&nbsp; &nbsp; 1250&nbsp;&nbsp; 100000&nbsp; &nbsp; 228625&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; 82000[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 70&nbsp; &nbsp; 1800&nbsp;&nbsp; 126000&nbsp; &nbsp; 354625&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 12&nbsp;&nbsp; 108000[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 60&nbsp; &nbsp; 2450&nbsp;&nbsp; 147000&nbsp; &nbsp; 501625&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 14&nbsp;&nbsp; 185000[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 45&nbsp; &nbsp; 3200&nbsp;&nbsp; 144000&nbsp; &nbsp; 645625&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 16&nbsp;&nbsp; 315000[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]9&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 40&nbsp; &nbsp; 4050&nbsp;&nbsp; 162000&nbsp; &nbsp; 807625&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 20&nbsp;&nbsp; 880000[/FONT][/code]&nbsp;&nbsp;Sp.Lvl. - Spell Level# Sp. - Approximate number of spells in that level (Core/APG/UM, from pfsrd)$/Scr. - Cost per scrollTot.$/Scr. - Total cost to buy all scrolls of that level (neglected 2 freebies per wizard level, sue me)Cum. Tot. - Running total of all scrolls up to selected levelWiz.Lvl. - Last wizard level before moving on to next spell level. In other words, I'm assuming you want your 1st level spells to be complete before you hit Wizard 3 and have to start on 2nd level spells.WBL - Suggested wealth by level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Systole, post: 5634951, member: 93930"] Not to speak for Treantmonk, but I imagine he didn't feel like taking the time. I, on the other hand, am an Excel genius, somewhat OCD, and very bored at work today. (See below.) I also imagine he chose level 5 at a simple midpoint rather than for any sinister reason. To your point, it's actually not even close to doable at that stage. It's sort of possible at (a) wizard level 2 and (b) wizard level 19-20. Even so, at level 20, being a spell completionist means blowing about 90% of your wealth on spells. A bit less considering the freebies. At wizard level 10 (which [B]was[/B] the point in question), spell levels 1-5 represent more than twice your WBL. It's even not possible for a wizard 10 to EITHER grab all of spell levels 1-4 OR to grab all of spell level 5 -- both of those are out of reach. Looking at the chart, that's about par for the course. Honestly, if you're going to criticize Treantmonk for twisting the facts, you might have at least looked at the facts before shooting off a bunch of assumptions. [code] [FONT=Fixedsys]Sp. # $/ Tot.$/ Cum. Wiz.[/FONT] [FONT=Fixedsys]Lvl. Sp. Scr. Scr. Tot. Lvl. WBL[/FONT] [FONT=Fixedsys]1 75 25 1875 1875 2 3000[/FONT] [FONT=Fixedsys]2 100 200 20000 21875 4 10500[/FONT] [FONT=Fixedsys]3 95 450 42750 64625 6 33000[/FONT] [FONT=Fixedsys]4 80 800 64000 128625 8 62000[/FONT] [FONT=Fixedsys]5 80 1250 100000 228625 10 82000[/FONT] [FONT=Fixedsys]6 70 1800 126000 354625 12 108000[/FONT] [FONT=Fixedsys]7 60 2450 147000 501625 14 185000[/FONT] [FONT=Fixedsys]8 45 3200 144000 645625 16 315000[/FONT] [FONT=Fixedsys]9 40 4050 162000 807625 20 880000[/FONT] [/code] [B]Sp.Lvl.[/B] - Spell Level [B]# Sp.[/B] - Approximate number of spells in that level (Core/APG/UM, from pfsrd) [B]$/Scr.[/B] - Cost per scroll [B]Tot.$/Scr.[/B] - Total cost to buy all scrolls of that level (neglected 2 freebies per wizard level, sue me) [B]Cum. Tot.[/B] - Running total of all scrolls up to selected level [B]Wiz.Lvl.[/B] - Last wizard level before moving on to next spell level. In other words, I'm assuming you want your 1st level spells to be complete before you hit Wizard 3 and have to start on 2nd level spells. [B]WBL [/B]- Suggested wealth by level. [/QUOTE]

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