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<blockquote data-quote="MarauderX" data-source="post: 986984" data-attributes="member: 9990">Dang.&nbsp; You are so right, I couldn't acquire the feat until 6th level no matter what I do.&nbsp; Having a human with high intellegence (besides the feats) allows the PC to load up on skill points like listen, tumble, hide, and move silently.&nbsp; Granted the max total ranks would be a bit lower for hide and listen, but the feat abilities far outweigh it all to me.&nbsp; Having Expertise to raise up the AC could be handy at times, along with Improved Disarm so as not to provoke an AoO.&nbsp; Attacks will be nearly the same, but damage will be significantly more.&nbsp; Instead of being able to take the Grappling Block, it could be replaced with Dodge or another, and at 6th level the choice would be to pursue Grappling Block, or backtrack and extend into one of the other feat 'trees': Mobility (followed by Spring Attack); Sunder (followed by Eagle Claw Attack) or even Improved Grapple (followed by Choke Hold).&nbsp; It's not all about the feats, but they sure make it easier to deal with opponents.&nbsp; Camarath:&nbsp; The Shintao Monk looks pretty cool, but I will need to have a BAB of +4 to take it, as well as sink skill points in Knoledge(religion) to get 8 ranks.&nbsp; Not sure if I want to go that way either.&nbsp; Then again, all 3 of the 'monk' PrCs listed in the OA require the same amount.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MarauderX, post: 986984, member: 9990"] Dang. You are so right, I couldn't acquire the feat until 6th level no matter what I do. Having a human with high intellegence (besides the feats) allows the PC to load up on skill points like listen, tumble, hide, and move silently. Granted the max total ranks would be a bit lower for hide and listen, but the feat abilities far outweigh it all to me. Having Expertise to raise up the AC could be handy at times, along with Improved Disarm so as not to provoke an AoO. Attacks will be nearly the same, but damage will be significantly more. Instead of being able to take the Grappling Block, it could be replaced with Dodge or another, and at 6th level the choice would be to pursue Grappling Block, or backtrack and extend into one of the other feat 'trees': Mobility (followed by Spring Attack); Sunder (followed by Eagle Claw Attack) or even Improved Grapple (followed by Choke Hold). It's not all about the feats, but they sure make it easier to deal with opponents. Camarath: The Shintao Monk looks pretty cool, but I will need to have a BAB of +4 to take it, as well as sink skill points in Knoledge(religion) to get 8 ranks. Not sure if I want to go that way either. Then again, all 3 of the 'monk' PrCs listed in the OA require the same amount. [/QUOTE]

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