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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Man in the Funny Hat" data-source="post: 6120710" data-attributes="member: 32740">I think that the game was never built to be competetive.  The fun of letting players occasionally select useful and interesting new abilities for thier characters is clear, but the point of the game is supposed to be (or i'd always been told it was) cooperation with other players & characters to overcome obstacles and challenges presented by the DM.  "Cool combinations and synergies that really made for some high performing PCs," are certainly possible as you expand the sheer volume of choices and combine it with the inability of game designers to thoroughly test all possibilities in a atmosphere of gameplay domination and one-upsmanship.  You shouldn't need to spend a lot of time tinkering and tuning up a character in order to play and fully enjoy the game and there is such as thing as having too much of a good thing.It is not a crime for a PC to be good at something.  Indeed, as the DM if I don't want to see the PC's and their players succeed and enjoy the hell of out doing so then I should be strung up by my Buster Browns.  But spending hours tweaking feats, class option, power, spells, examining race and class combinations and pushing the envelope of the rules is - to me - missing the point.  There is fun and pride to be found in rules mastery but I got a bellyfull of that from 3E.  That isn't a core principle to be encouraged in any D&D game I personally want to run or play in; it's not something I see as wanting to build the game around - to say, "THIS is where the fun is - in the planning, not in the playing."  Tried it for years and have now rejected it.  But maybe that's just me.</blockquote>

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