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<blockquote data-quote="cignus_pfaccari" data-source="post: 5452817" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>Remember, monks are a Dexterity-based class in 4e, so you'll want something with a Dex bonus in an ideal world.</p><p></p><p>Both the goliath and dwarf do have decent secondary stats for you, though, so they could work adequately with your rolled stat spread; the dwarf can be either a Centered Breath or Stone Fist monk, whereas the goliath is best off with Stone Fist. Both also work well with Iron Soul, but you said that you didn't want a weapon at all, and Iron Soul gets most of its schtick from carrying a weapon.</p><p></p><p>You'd put the 18 in Dexterity, always. You'd put the the 16s in Str and Wis for a Stone Fist monk. If I were doing a Centered Breath monk, I'd put one 16 in Wis and the other in Con for extra health and Fort (since you're not going to be worried so much about Strength except for melee basic attacks), and then arrange the 12s and 8 to taste.</p><p></p><p>Also, note that the ki focus is not a weapon, but an implement. It enhances your unarmed strike and/or your weapons. So, using a ki focus is not like using a weapon...though note that there are feats that you can take to increase your damage output that use weapons, such as Crashing Tempest Style (use a club in one hand for more damage on Flurry of Blows), or Starblade Flurry (fling a shuriken or dagger for another Flurry of Blows target).</p><p></p><p>If you don't want to use a ki focus, or, well, *anything*, then you'll want to make sure the campaign is using Inherent bonuses, which sort of make up for not using items for enhancement bonuses. </p><p></p><p>Brad</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cignus_pfaccari, post: 5452817, member: 14557"] Remember, monks are a Dexterity-based class in 4e, so you'll want something with a Dex bonus in an ideal world. Both the goliath and dwarf do have decent secondary stats for you, though, so they could work adequately with your rolled stat spread; the dwarf can be either a Centered Breath or Stone Fist monk, whereas the goliath is best off with Stone Fist. Both also work well with Iron Soul, but you said that you didn't want a weapon at all, and Iron Soul gets most of its schtick from carrying a weapon. You'd put the 18 in Dexterity, always. You'd put the the 16s in Str and Wis for a Stone Fist monk. If I were doing a Centered Breath monk, I'd put one 16 in Wis and the other in Con for extra health and Fort (since you're not going to be worried so much about Strength except for melee basic attacks), and then arrange the 12s and 8 to taste. Also, note that the ki focus is not a weapon, but an implement. It enhances your unarmed strike and/or your weapons. So, using a ki focus is not like using a weapon...though note that there are feats that you can take to increase your damage output that use weapons, such as Crashing Tempest Style (use a club in one hand for more damage on Flurry of Blows), or Starblade Flurry (fling a shuriken or dagger for another Flurry of Blows target). If you don't want to use a ki focus, or, well, *anything*, then you'll want to make sure the campaign is using Inherent bonuses, which sort of make up for not using items for enhancement bonuses. Brad [/QUOTE]
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