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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5453607" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>They work for weapon powers, they do not for implement powers. Monk powers are implement powers.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">This is because ki foci allow you to use their enhancement bonus, properties, and powers instead of a weapon's bonus etc. for weapon powers explicitly, but they do not have a provision for implement powers that is different than normal implement rules.</span></p><p></p><p>Definately avoid an Iron Soul monk, as they -require- weapons to operate as their implements. For a race, your stat array gives you a good shot for a Goliath or a Dwarf monk. It doesn't really matter--however you are shooting yourself in the foot by not using weapons. Both these races have access to a feat which gives them a good damage boost that can be used with implement powers so long as they use the appropriate weapon. Monk will allow that weapon to be used as an implement... so... yeah.</p><p></p><p>I have to endorce the Half-orc monk tho. It still gives you that 'tough guy' feel, but its stat array is perfect. Plus its racial abilities work very well with non-armed implement powers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As for not using a weapon or ki focus... well... you'll end up forgoing your enhancement bonus. This is very bad. There is an option where your DM can allow for inherent bonuses, which are enhancement bonuses gained by reaching certain levels rather than by magic items. This is something you might want to ask about. Bear in mind by doing this, you're sacrificing weapon/implement properties and critical hit bonuses... there is a definate trade off. If you were adamant about it, I as a DM might be persuaded to allow it for you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5453607, member: 71571"] They work for weapon powers, they do not for implement powers. Monk powers are implement powers. [size=1]This is because ki foci allow you to use their enhancement bonus, properties, and powers instead of a weapon's bonus etc. for weapon powers explicitly, but they do not have a provision for implement powers that is different than normal implement rules.[/size] Definately avoid an Iron Soul monk, as they -require- weapons to operate as their implements. For a race, your stat array gives you a good shot for a Goliath or a Dwarf monk. It doesn't really matter--however you are shooting yourself in the foot by not using weapons. Both these races have access to a feat which gives them a good damage boost that can be used with implement powers so long as they use the appropriate weapon. Monk will allow that weapon to be used as an implement... so... yeah. I have to endorce the Half-orc monk tho. It still gives you that 'tough guy' feel, but its stat array is perfect. Plus its racial abilities work very well with non-armed implement powers. As for not using a weapon or ki focus... well... you'll end up forgoing your enhancement bonus. This is very bad. There is an option where your DM can allow for inherent bonuses, which are enhancement bonuses gained by reaching certain levels rather than by magic items. This is something you might want to ask about. Bear in mind by doing this, you're sacrificing weapon/implement properties and critical hit bonuses... there is a definate trade off. If you were adamant about it, I as a DM might be persuaded to allow it for you. [/QUOTE]
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