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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6889976" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well.... but that IS kind of a problem. There's a LOT of druid powers that assume CON is your 2nd stat. There are SOME that base or can base off of DEX, but you're definitely giving up a decent amount when you go to DEX as your secondary stat. Then the question is, what are you gaining? If you have CON as a tertiary you're gaining maybe 1 or 2 points of DR, and giving up a lot of small bennies to keep your AC competitive. OR you have to tank your AC to go with CON and you lack, now, any feat to rectify that effectively. The point is, swarm druid is simply not competitive. You can simply be a predator or guardian and flavor your wild shape as a bunch of insects, you end up better off in all respects.So, no, Swarm Druid isn't TERRIBLE, but without the benefit of being able to switch your AC to CON its simply never a good build mechanically. If you CAN do the switch, then you can get a pretty good AC and a real hefty DR, which is sweet. Not crazy, but actually worthwhile. The nerfing of the feat was aimed at barbarians anyway, it was just lack of any way to make it more specific that caught the Swarm Druid in the crossfire. In classic WotC 4e fashion they never seemed to care about collateral damage. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></blockquote>

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