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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7027948" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Yep, I'm right there with you, 4e had everything you could wa-</p><p>::MARTIALCONTROLLER!::</p><p>- oh, excuse me, allergies are coming on early this year...</p><p></p><p> That was just less-combat/more-magic Cleric, wasn't it? Like a 'poor combat abilities'/lotsa-spheres Priest in 2e, sorta?</p><p></p><p> So like the drive-the-DM-crazy Epic-know-it-all, The Sage of Ages? I wish I could say that I have no idea what an inedible pita it is to deal with one of those...</p><p></p><p> Might actually go with the Vile Scholar theme (ew). Sage of Ages is the obvious thing at Epic. In-between... uh, Divine Philospher (Invoker) or Accademy Master (any arcane) sound like candidates.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Doesn't sound like a big issue. </p><p></p><p> INT-based divine class doesn't really fly, they can already be WIS or CHA or STR... You /could/ just take a Cleric or Invoker, remove the heavy armor, and just arbitrarily make it INT for attack stat instead of WIS - it could keep WIS for other riders, since WIS is supposed to be secondary for the Archivist; INT would take care of it's AC needs. You could hybrid Wizard (the obvious fit in terms of unarmored and high INT with lots of knowledge) with Invoker or Cleric, or simply MC to qualify for the PP path you want. Another place you can go for INT-utility but not overt combat ability would be Tactical Warlord, sticking to the 'lazy' exploits - you use your knowledge to help your allies fight better... a lot better. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> For the divine connection you could hybrid that with Invoker, for the more wizardy feel (or actual Wizard and really get a lot out of your INT), or Cleric for a full-on Leader.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7027948, member: 996"] Yep, I'm right there with you, 4e had everything you could wa- ::MARTIALCONTROLLER!:: - oh, excuse me, allergies are coming on early this year... That was just less-combat/more-magic Cleric, wasn't it? Like a 'poor combat abilities'/lotsa-spheres Priest in 2e, sorta? So like the drive-the-DM-crazy Epic-know-it-all, The Sage of Ages? I wish I could say that I have no idea what an inedible pita it is to deal with one of those... Might actually go with the Vile Scholar theme (ew). Sage of Ages is the obvious thing at Epic. In-between... uh, Divine Philospher (Invoker) or Accademy Master (any arcane) sound like candidates. Doesn't sound like a big issue. INT-based divine class doesn't really fly, they can already be WIS or CHA or STR... You /could/ just take a Cleric or Invoker, remove the heavy armor, and just arbitrarily make it INT for attack stat instead of WIS - it could keep WIS for other riders, since WIS is supposed to be secondary for the Archivist; INT would take care of it's AC needs. You could hybrid Wizard (the obvious fit in terms of unarmored and high INT with lots of knowledge) with Invoker or Cleric, or simply MC to qualify for the PP path you want. Another place you can go for INT-utility but not overt combat ability would be Tactical Warlord, sticking to the 'lazy' exploits - you use your knowledge to help your allies fight better... a lot better. ;) For the divine connection you could hybrid that with Invoker, for the more wizardy feel (or actual Wizard and really get a lot out of your INT), or Cleric for a full-on Leader. [/QUOTE]
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