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<blockquote data-quote="Shin Okada" data-source="post: 2742549" data-attributes="member: 1956"><p>Assume that NPC class level is truly free. I mean, a PC with 3,000 xp can be Expert 1/Fighter 2.</p><p></p><p>I can think of other several game-balance problems.</p><p></p><p>1. Practiced Spellcaster feat.</p><p></p><p>By taking this feat, a character has up to +4 higher caster level than his spellcasting class levels, up to his HD. So, an Expert 1/Wizard 10 can have caster level of 11. May not be that much significant. But good.</p><p></p><p>2. Prestige Class requirements</p><p></p><p>By taking a free Aristocrat class level, one can be proficient in all the martial weapons and armors. So, some PCs may qualify the requirements of certain prestige classes earlier. For example, a wizard 5 with free Aristocrat level can become Eldritch Knight.</p><p></p><p>3. 1st-level skills</p><p></p><p>Having "free" NPC class level may actually hamper a Rogue or Scout. Having x4 skill points at the 1st level is very important for them.</p><p></p><p>4. Feat choice</p><p></p><p>As that "free" level may change the timing of getting feats, it may either benefit or hamper some builds. It will be different on each cases. For example, usually, a 1st-level human fighter can choose 3 feats which requires BAB +1 as prerequisite. But Aristocrat 1/Fighter 1 cannot. On the other hand, a 1st-level monk character cannot usually take Weapon Focus (Unarmed Strike). But warrior 1/Monk 1 can. Because of those differences, some players may choose or skip certain NPC class for power-gaming, not for role-playing. I guess that is not your intention.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shin Okada, post: 2742549, member: 1956"] Assume that NPC class level is truly free. I mean, a PC with 3,000 xp can be Expert 1/Fighter 2. I can think of other several game-balance problems. 1. Practiced Spellcaster feat. By taking this feat, a character has up to +4 higher caster level than his spellcasting class levels, up to his HD. So, an Expert 1/Wizard 10 can have caster level of 11. May not be that much significant. But good. 2. Prestige Class requirements By taking a free Aristocrat class level, one can be proficient in all the martial weapons and armors. So, some PCs may qualify the requirements of certain prestige classes earlier. For example, a wizard 5 with free Aristocrat level can become Eldritch Knight. 3. 1st-level skills Having "free" NPC class level may actually hamper a Rogue or Scout. Having x4 skill points at the 1st level is very important for them. 4. Feat choice As that "free" level may change the timing of getting feats, it may either benefit or hamper some builds. It will be different on each cases. For example, usually, a 1st-level human fighter can choose 3 feats which requires BAB +1 as prerequisite. But Aristocrat 1/Fighter 1 cannot. On the other hand, a 1st-level monk character cannot usually take Weapon Focus (Unarmed Strike). But warrior 1/Monk 1 can. Because of those differences, some players may choose or skip certain NPC class for power-gaming, not for role-playing. I guess that is not your intention. [/QUOTE]
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