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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2950506" data-attributes="member: 29014">I would say that as far as I can see, Psions are actually weakened if you include Complete Psionic due to the errata.  Particularly, Shapers are emasculated and rendered trivial.As to the inclusions--I don't want to see a kitchen-sink in here either, for several reasons including alienating people who don't have the books.  Spell Compendium is particularly problematic in that sense, since it may have changed spells that are in it.  I own most of the books that fed into the Spell Compendium but not the Compendium itself, so I don't know what errata they put in there, and I can only vote for or against the original versions.That said, there are a few things that people have proposed here that I will always be vetoing immediately and suggesting to all other Judges that they do the same:Complete Divine.  There are things in here that could be allowed piecemeal, maybe, but such a large percentage is totally broken that I wouldn't be able to remember it all for piecemeal vetos.  The base classes are fine (except there's no reason to include orientals from any Complete book), however.  This is one of the few WotC products that actually has a larger percentage of broken material than most 3rd-party products.Complete Adventurer is mostly an awesome book that helps play things that were underpowered in the core rules.  The way it does this, however, is by releasing options that are incredibly powerful in hopes of balancing the weenies.  Usually this is okay, but occasionally, they throw in something that is completely inexcusable.  Wraithstrike is one example.  It is unbalanced at any level, and so terrible that in fact I think a game is better off not having all the good things in Complete Adventurer than having them and also Wraithstrike.  It is a spell that is guaranteed to break your game at any level if a character who could use it learns it (hey Knight Phantom, how are you doing? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> )  There's a few others too, but Wraithstrike is worse than all of them combined.Complete Arcane Orb spells with no SR.  What the hell?  A force effect that isn't magical?  What is it then?  Completely ignoring the SR mechanic and saving throw mechanic is inexcusable and completely unfair.  There's a reason I see this in every powergamer's builds.  We could allow them if we changed them to allow SR.  Most of CA is fine.Complete Warrior: Some people have problems with Hulking Hurler--this class is broken, but the main problem is that improvised weapons table that allows them to get so strong.  A few of the other PrCs in there are over-the-top, and the Elusive Target feat (has that been errataed?) is overpowered even if you change the line that automatically negates the first attack against you and puts it on your enemy to only put the attack on the enemy if it misses you normally.  The rest of the book is completely fine and a great addition.</blockquote>

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