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<blockquote data-quote="doktorstick" data-source="post: 804996" data-attributes="member: 4485"><p>Howdy.</p><p></p><p>Last night we were fighting a dwarf that made a 5-ft. step and turned invisible. Because of the game mechanics you know the creatures location (assuming no <em>haste</em>). We attacked the square with 50% miss chance; we did not have to "guess" the square to attack.</p><p></p><p>The next round, about 20 ft. away, a door opened. The assumption was that the dwarf moved to the door and then opened it. Again, assuming that <em>haste</em> was not in effect, the monk decided to bull rush the probable square. Wackiness ensues. Here is how we ruled it.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bull rushing into an opponent's square (or by an opponent) draws an attack of opportunity. The invisible creature opted not to make an attack (and thereby not ending her spell).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Because the creature was invisible, the monk rolled for the attack miss chance and missed.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Because he didn't fail his bull rush opposed check, he was not pushed back 5-ft.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Because he ended his turn in a square with an opponent, he unexpectedly bumped into her and fell prone (for occupying a square with an opponent).</li> </ul><p></p><p>Was this an acceptable ruling, and would you have done anything differently?</p><p></p><p>Cheers,</p><p>/ds</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doktorstick, post: 804996, member: 4485"] Howdy. Last night we were fighting a dwarf that made a 5-ft. step and turned invisible. Because of the game mechanics you know the creatures location (assuming no [i]haste[/i]). We attacked the square with 50% miss chance; we did not have to "guess" the square to attack. The next round, about 20 ft. away, a door opened. The assumption was that the dwarf moved to the door and then opened it. Again, assuming that [i]haste[/i] was not in effect, the monk decided to bull rush the probable square. Wackiness ensues. Here is how we ruled it. [list][*]Bull rushing into an opponent's square (or by an opponent) draws an attack of opportunity. The invisible creature opted not to make an attack (and thereby not ending her spell). [*] Because the creature was invisible, the monk rolled for the attack miss chance and missed. [*] Because he didn't fail his bull rush opposed check, he was not pushed back 5-ft. [*] Because he ended his turn in a square with an opponent, he unexpectedly bumped into her and fell prone (for occupying a square with an opponent).[/list] Was this an acceptable ruling, and would you have done anything differently? Cheers, /ds [/QUOTE]
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