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Message: <blockquote data-quote="lordxaviar" data-source="post: 5567395" data-attributes="member: 56673">Ok im not sure anymore where I started from but thats not that important at the moment.Ok I have looked over the MoF version... what do I not like... the whole summons nonsense, usless and not needed... for the realms sure... different planet diff monsters... I needed an update on bullywugs for use with the dwellers module which is being discussed in another thread. using that as the begining, I went looking.  I had forgotten about the armor, their leader is even wearing a chain shirt, this ties in with their worship of wastri. which is a strange relationship at best., This gave me the need to completely rewrite the section on the pan lung. who must be insane, but thats another thread.I went over the skill points, and i did add wrong, I left off the ability score bonus,,, so it would be higher... As for there being high... I dont agree, this is a race that lives to kill and in their own environment they should be good at it.  so it would be +8 +13 and +13, I guess i could lower the racial bonus, but I dont see a reason to, it ties in with there fighting.  With the low to avg intelligence I dont see a need for the inclusion of warrior or barbarian classes like it suggests for the realms again Ed can keep his versions of creatures on his planet.With there attack in numbers and the hop sorry Jump ability they can leap and flank opponents, and then attack.  I think that they earn a CR 1On Amphibious  I think I will leave that, anyone with the IQ to play this game should understand what it means and it was a missing aspect.Ok let me say here that I do stick to the rule books when ever they apply, but as hasbro took over and it was more about profit then game enrichment, they left out obvious fixes and actually added flaws, that we as true Gygaxians should strive to fix. Especially since Hasbro has declared war on us, by stopping printing, distribution and stifling any further development of the older version of this game.  Not to bash... but 4.0 is not D and D, Its not bad I actually played again with someone new and it was just another fun game like gamma world. traveller, aftermath etc... but not d and d.  wow...end rant...  lolX</blockquote>

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