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<blockquote data-quote="jedijon" data-source="post: 7741494" data-attributes="member: 49099">Monster players are disliked within the game world (offset by the fact that we KNOW it’s a game [vs our reality] and like “anti heroes”), cause the whole group to be faced with a more visceral morality i.e. ‘we just killed our buddy’s brother’ by placing monsters both IN and OUT of the party (partially offset by the fact that we rarely care to portray realistic social and moral consequence), and work to invalidate our tropes of what’s “heroic” when a CR 1/10th threat is fighting by our side at lvl20 (nothing to offset this - save for teh lullz).&nbsp;Ya gotta pick one bad boy. See part 1. I take it that all the above justification underpins why that is goblins for them—never realized they were so iconic for the pathfinder design team. This particular one puts a heavy conflict between 1 &amp; 3 for me—a goblin is not an epic friend/foe.&nbsp;Stature predudice FTW?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jedijon, post: 7741494, member: 49099"] Monster players are disliked within the game world (offset by the fact that we KNOW it’s a game [vs our reality] and like “anti heroes”), cause the whole group to be faced with a more visceral morality i.e. ‘we just killed our buddy’s brother’ by placing monsters both IN and OUT of the party (partially offset by the fact that we rarely care to portray realistic social and moral consequence), and work to invalidate our tropes of what’s “heroic” when a CR 1/10th threat is fighting by our side at lvl20 (nothing to offset this - save for teh lullz). Ya gotta pick one bad boy. See part 1. I take it that all the above justification underpins why that is goblins for them—never realized they were so iconic for the pathfinder design team. This particular one puts a heavy conflict between 1 & 3 for me—a goblin is not an epic friend/foe. Stature predudice FTW? [/QUOTE]

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