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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7758703" data-attributes="member: 42582">This wouldn't both me except from the practical point of view that if it goes on for very long then I might get bored.But I certainly think nothing of a situation in which two players discuss ideas among themselves while I'm dealing with another player. And I know that sometimes my players come up with plans over email between sessions that I'm not privy to. This isn't a big thing in games without wargaming elements (eg Prince Valiant) but I know they do it for 4e, which does have a significant wargaming element in the context of combat resolution. Just as I don't tell them in advance everything that I'm planning to do with my NPCs and monsters, so I've got no objection to them wanting to keep their tactical ideas secret until they come out in play.Burning Wheel - another system that we play - uses various resolution systems that depend on blind scripting. If it's PC vs NPC, then I script for the NPC while the player scripts for his/her PC. It's absolutely the players' prerogative to keep the script secret from me until the rules call for revelation; and I take it for granted that players might discuss their scripting among themselves, just as I might call on an uninvolved player to help me with my NPC's script.(Because I'm a bad wargamer with a poor poker face, while some of my players are pretty good at this stuff, that means my BW NPCs often find themselves a bit hosed. C'est la vie!)The last example I can remember like this - that is, where it wasn't just about working out how a rule works, but making a choice about how to handle an unclear case - was the 4e dazed rules. If a character starts the turn dazed (ie limited to one action), and then has the condition lifted during his/her turn, does s/he get to take additional actions before his/her turn ends?The first time this came up we talked about it and decided yes. (I think to the benefit of the PCs.) Then some time quite a bit later it came up again, involving a NPC, but there was some reason why our original ruling really didn't seem to make sense in the context. (I can't remember now what that reason was.) So we discussed again and decided that your suite of available actions is settled in the start-of-turn phase, and having daze be lifted after that made no differenced - and I also told them that I wasn't going to have any flip-flopping on this new ruling when it came back to bite their PCs!</blockquote>

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