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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Mhoram" data-source="post: 7762547" data-attributes="member: 4789">I'll admit I'm on the side of the fence that thinks the phrase DM entitlement is a non-sequitur, because putting those limits on is something I consider part of the GMs job (especially if it is non D&D game, Like HERO or GURPS that can easily be abused).But I do agree with you about consensus... I think we just completely disagree on when. The person in the group has an idea for setting/world and tone and approach. That person explains that idea to the group, lays out the rules limitation, and asks the group what they think. The group then agrees on whether or not to play - once that agreement has happened, then the game proceeds with the GM being the absolute final arbiter of what is allowed/banned. If in the initial pitch the players don't want to play that game, he doesn't run it, and someone else can GM. If the rest of the group doesn't have anyone who wants to GM, and it would dissolve without that person running the game - the players suck it up and play the way the GM wants... or they can leave, or have someone else GM (my wife was forced into GMing quite a few times, so I've seen that happen).Say a new player joins, and the game has been running 3 years, and is about halfway done (we run LONG campaigns). The new player wants to play a race that has already been disallowed in the game  - and the player joining didn't listen to the DM (or bothered to check) about what his game allows, then  yes that race should be denied. As another example - I run a game that has a very unique structure for deity/cosmology - effectively only one church and only a few Gods (it feels sort of "fictionalize generic Catholic" and the Gods, structurally are like saints), and there are no evil Gods (just demons and devils, which are variation of each other). Those gods are defined and are an integral part of my worlds setting. I'm not going to introduce a new deity just because a new player wants to worship a Feurun Deity (for example).</blockquote>

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