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Message: <blockquote data-quote="lukzu" data-source="post: 2429260" data-attributes="member: 34128">Hi WillRich,That game I mentioned in my previous post? It took about 3 hours to play. Admittedly, it was only two players, but there was a lot of action. Two social conflicts (which play the same as "combat") and one big fight that included a human sorcerer, two Elves, and two great spiders. It bears noting that we started and finished the adventure/scenario in those three hours and had plenty of time for roleplaying to boot.The conflict moves like lightning. The seeming "rigidity" of the rules dispenses with the majority of the nonsense that makes us bored at the table and focuses on the cool stuff -- like what you're character is doing.HOWEVER, and that's a big however, Burning Wheel is different from that game you're playing. Whatever it is, it's different. The level of detail, the intensity of conflict and the inherent risks in every throw of the dice make for more intimate situations. I'm not saying that a huge brawl can't be fun now and again, but I am saying you don't need to stack the odds every time just to make an interesting fight. And for those big brawls BW runs just fine. But those moments better be the big guns, because unless your characters are sweet and l33t, you're going to have trouble. 4 vs 12 fights are <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ing epic in BW. Which is, in my opinion, how it should be.Even so, judging an epic battle is also just a matter of knowing when to apply the rules. For the dramatic "blast through the guards and burst into the throne room" scene, we use the Bloody Versus Test rules and just get it over in one roll. But when confronting the Red Wizard on his throne, his concubine-assassin and his samurai thrall, we go to the Fight! mechanics. Because they are dramatic, fun and cool.-Luke</blockquote>

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