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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StupidSmurf" data-source="post: 2713497" data-attributes="member: 35893">People, please!!! All this mean bickering is giving me a big case of ambiance denial!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> OK, anyways....for what it's worth, here's my opinion/reactions. Bear in mind I'm a dad/grizzled veteran of four kids....current ages 18-10.1. I can pay money at a batting cage and swing a baseball bat around to my heart's content. I cannot expect to swing a baseball bat in a restaurant, even if I am a paying customer. There's a place for everything. If I go to a nice restaurant, I expect a relaxing, enjoyable time without screeching noises, flying food, and prone child bodies in the aisles. I'll be disappointed in anything less. If I go to Chuck E Cheese's, I expect a day of living screaming kid Hell, with numerous audio/visual assaults. I'd be disappointed in anything less  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> 2. I for one have been MORTIFIED and EMBARRASSED if my kids have acted rudely in a restaurant or movie theater. If a verbal demand for quiet hasn't been complied with, I've dragged the kid away from the public area, so as not to bother others. Finding a quieter, out of the way private place, I would then be free to administer discipline (or justice...or vengeance...you make the call!).3. What?? You mean, as a parent, we're expected to make some sacrifices? Our price to pay, so to speak, for reproducing? Damn straight we do! After work today, there's nothing my wife and I would like more than hit Chili's, get a few beers, then check into a hotel and have red-hot weasel sex for 5 hours. As it happens, instead we have to dash out of work and pick up the youngest at her after-school care program, go home, make dinner, and then I have to go pick up my youngest son from someplace else. Sucks to be us, huh? But those are the things you gotta do when you're a parent. We suck up and deal. Why punish those who haven't made the same choices we have?4. I've seen too many fellow parents who have this bizarre sense of entitlement, almost as if they're taking the whole "We need to get on that lifeboat...we have children!" mentality and applying it with a fire hose to every other situation in life. Hey, parents who have this bizarre sense of entitlement...cut it out, eh? You're making the rest of us look bad, you hosers!5. Oh, so a staff person complaining to a parent about their unruly child is disturbing the relaxation of the parent? Gee whiz. What about the poor schlub who's paid for his/her meal and just wants an hour of enjoying their food in peace, and instead is subjected to the collateral splash-effects of thrown lettuce, while being serenaded with the 5678th rendering of SpongeBob Squarepants? Where's THEIR relaxation?6. I'm sure that positive-vibe guy lost some customers because of his policy. But I'll bet you anything that he GAINED some too!7. This may be preaching to some parts of the choir, but...raising kids is HARD WORK. And that sometimes means making the hard choices, or recognizing your limitations. That means getting off your lazy arse and disciplinging your larvae. Or at least realizing that, unless you have made arrangements, some places simply aren't for you at the present time.8. Two words: Baby Sitter9. And yes, while I agree that those unruly undisciplined kids will eventually "pay" their parents back, what do we do in the meantime? Some nebulous future payback that I won't see is scarce consolation for the fact that my dinner's getting ruined because Mrs Baby Factory and Mr DNA Donor can't control their own intimate byproducts.10. As for kicking out unruly drunks or loudly talking cel phone weenies, I pray that they're next, especially the latter.  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious    :]" data-shortname=":]" /></blockquote>

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