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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StupidSmurf" data-source="post: 2715572" data-attributes="member: 35893">I agree, JD.The "No-kids" thing, IMO, is based on common sense experience...kids as a rule make noise and haven't quite learned how to behave, and unfortunately not all parents consider it important that they learn this. Kids by their very nature are immature...that's why they're kids. Some parents make attempts at exercising control and restraint, others don't, and in my opinion that latter group ruins it for everyone. The "no kids" thing is a sad concession to the whole "some ruin it for all".The concept of "no blacks" or "no Jews" or whatever is based on no actual evidence, but rather simply on the basis of race, color, or religion. Thus, there's NO grounds for exclusion that would hold up.There's no lawsuit potential here.I also agree with Rel's post. It's not the occasional loud noise, outburst, or wandering away. It's the CONSTANT offenses...I've seen these parents in action (or should that be, in inaction???). Their kids pretty much run loose like a bunch of little savages, and they just sit there, blithely. Because, hey, they paid for their meal, dammit, and they have the right to enjoy it in peace!Yeah, well so does everyone else in the joint...and our peace is being threatened by those little uncontrolled monsters.Kids will be kids. As I said, I'm a dad of four, so I know it first hand. But's incumbent upon the parents to gradually push their kids away from childish things and point them towards growing up. Parents who refuse to do so aren't fit company.</blockquote>

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