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<blockquote data-quote="Meatboy" data-source="post: 5965838" data-attributes="member: 40857"><p>Sure games can be art. But allow me to throw out an idea about art in general first. I am sure someone said this before and probably better but hear me out. </p><p></p><p>OK art is dialogue between the creator and the viewer in which the creator states a certain world view, consciously or not. The thing that makes this dialogue possible, its 'language', is context. Old art (renaissance stuff or other ancient pieces from any culture really) is usually easy to appreciate because its drawn from real life, a context we all share. Without that context, that understanding, any dialogue between artist and viewer becomes lost or muddied and you are left with people saying "Huh? I don't get it." </p><p></p><p>For example I saw Eminem mentioned earlier, he is a generally regarded as great even by people who don't listen to rap. I say this is due to his skill, as both a musician and lyricist, and the fact that he raps about things which are 'universal', like currents events or feelings of loss, anger etc. This is the context that allows what he is trying to say reach such a wide audience. Because most people have some idea of events or have dealt with the same feelings that he raps about. There are other rappers, who even though they are well regarded within the rap world, have much more limited appeal because they tend to rap about the 'thug life'. This context is something that does not allow the creator/viewer dialogue to happen as easily, unless you are A) someone who has experienced thug life or has grown up in areas steeped in that culture or B) a fan of the medium called rap. (There are probably other who appreciate it as well but hopefully you get the idea.) </p><p></p><p>Ack got to go to work I'll be back tonight to tie this idea of art with games.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Meatboy, post: 5965838, member: 40857"] Sure games can be art. But allow me to throw out an idea about art in general first. I am sure someone said this before and probably better but hear me out. OK art is dialogue between the creator and the viewer in which the creator states a certain world view, consciously or not. The thing that makes this dialogue possible, its 'language', is context. Old art (renaissance stuff or other ancient pieces from any culture really) is usually easy to appreciate because its drawn from real life, a context we all share. Without that context, that understanding, any dialogue between artist and viewer becomes lost or muddied and you are left with people saying "Huh? I don't get it." For example I saw Eminem mentioned earlier, he is a generally regarded as great even by people who don't listen to rap. I say this is due to his skill, as both a musician and lyricist, and the fact that he raps about things which are 'universal', like currents events or feelings of loss, anger etc. This is the context that allows what he is trying to say reach such a wide audience. Because most people have some idea of events or have dealt with the same feelings that he raps about. There are other rappers, who even though they are well regarded within the rap world, have much more limited appeal because they tend to rap about the 'thug life'. This context is something that does not allow the creator/viewer dialogue to happen as easily, unless you are A) someone who has experienced thug life or has grown up in areas steeped in that culture or B) a fan of the medium called rap. (There are probably other who appreciate it as well but hopefully you get the idea.) Ack got to go to work I'll be back tonight to tie this idea of art with games. [/QUOTE]
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