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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 488590" data-attributes="member: 7240">A few posters have gleefully pointed out that magic could be used by creatures other than the Maiar and Valar. I've never disputed any such claim. My statement was the kinetic magic could only be used by a Vala or Maia. It is abundantly clear throughout the text of Tolkien that the Noldor were capable of making what one could roughly call "magic items." I would even concede, despite the paucity of direct text, that the Dwarves of Durin's folk could make such items as well.However, such magic is not kinetic in any way. The spells take days or weeks to weave and the items have no kinetic properties. My point is not that there is no magic wielded by Humans, Dwarves and Elves but that kinetic magic is completely outside of anything a character could have access to. I therefore suggest that if one is to play in ME, one should use a game system designed for it not one running in opposition to it.There is no point in telling me the Istari are Maia and can therefore use kinetic magic. I agree with you. However, their physical forms constrain this -- whether by virtue of Arda physics or the word of Manwe (we can't be sure whether these are one in the same). Galdalf, aided by Narya, however, can use such magic inspite of this constraint.Kinetic magic -- magic that moves things by force -- evocation, transmutation, conjuration spells. Most enchantment, divination and illusion spells are not kinetic magic.</blockquote>

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