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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zurai" data-source="post: 3919481" data-attributes="member: 52324">Frankly, you're totally wrong. For one thing, you can ONLY remove a +1 LA and still catch up in levels pre-Epic. You don't finish off +2 LA buyoff until ECL 11, and it'll take more than 9 levels to fully catch up in experience, ESPECIALLY if you're doing anything that burns experience (spellcasting or item creation). At LA+3, you barely even pay off the LA pre-Epic, and anything past that and you're stuck with LA+2 even going into epic levels. Since "epic level balance" is an oxymoron, I'm going to completely dismiss everything past level 20. As for "fancy abilities", I'd rather have a baseline Dwarf's horde of abilities than a Tiefling's +2 to bluff and hide and useless spell 1/day.For another:First: Centaurs have 4 Monstrous Humanoid hit die, which are piss-poor and cannot be bought off. A centaur anything (except maybe fighter - and seriously, anything that helps fighters is good) is worse off than a non-centaur, even if they had no LA. I don't think you realize just how huge a handicap it is to not be allowed to take a class level until ECL 7. I do; I've played a centaur. It sucked total donkey balls.Second: Why the hell are you worried about buffing PHYSICAL classes? Even with no racial HD and no LA, a level 20 centaur barbarian is a wimp compared to a level 20 no-racial-abilities-at-all wizard or cleric or druid. Hell, he probably just gets dominated in the first round, and now he's on the spellcaster's team.</blockquote>

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