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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3566620" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Well, actually, it does seem to be the precise example you had in mind. Because, you continue with...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is the exact same example. If an incarnation of goodness has an approved fashion for doing goodness, then anything that isn't approvable is not good. If it was good, it would be approvable. Why must you assume that these reasons are arbitrarily chosen? Do you think that the deity is going to approve of clerics that act as if the deities standards are arbitrarily chosen? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>When dealing with Chaotic Good ones it is. If they are merely, Chaotic, then sure, they may believe that concepts like 'goodness' are arbitrary and foreign to thier nature, and they really won't care whether thier followers (if they care for them at all) have correct answers because they may think correctness is merely arbitrary. But even by this standard, there are modes of behavior which are 'incorrect', namely those arising from different (by that dieties standards) 'flawed' views of the world. The belief in arbitrariness isn't arbitrary if you are going to follow the teachings of an incarnation of arbitrariness. It's required.</p><p></p><p>The difference between LG and CG isn't that one thinks there is a correct answer to any moral situation, and the other doesn't. The difference is that CG thinks that there is a correct answer which is unique to each moral situation, and LG thinks there is the correct answer which can be deduced for every moral situation based off a finite set of guidelines. CG thinks that the later belief is ridiculous because the number of situations is infinite and each situation so unique, that the only way to do the right thing is rely as best you can on your own wisdom and make a personal judgement. LG thinks that is ridiculous since mortal wisdom is finite and prone to folly, and the only true guide is to rely on the wisdom imparted down to you from a being/institution/society/teacher far greater than yourself - even if in your own reason you can't understand why this course of action is for the best. But its not like either thinks that 'good' is relative in the sense of there being mutually exclusive outcomes which are equally good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 3566620, member: 4937"] Well, actually, it does seem to be the precise example you had in mind. Because, you continue with... Which is the exact same example. If an incarnation of goodness has an approved fashion for doing goodness, then anything that isn't approvable is not good. If it was good, it would be approvable. Why must you assume that these reasons are arbitrarily chosen? Do you think that the deity is going to approve of clerics that act as if the deities standards are arbitrarily chosen? When dealing with Chaotic Good ones it is. If they are merely, Chaotic, then sure, they may believe that concepts like 'goodness' are arbitrary and foreign to thier nature, and they really won't care whether thier followers (if they care for them at all) have correct answers because they may think correctness is merely arbitrary. But even by this standard, there are modes of behavior which are 'incorrect', namely those arising from different (by that dieties standards) 'flawed' views of the world. The belief in arbitrariness isn't arbitrary if you are going to follow the teachings of an incarnation of arbitrariness. It's required. The difference between LG and CG isn't that one thinks there is a correct answer to any moral situation, and the other doesn't. The difference is that CG thinks that there is a correct answer which is unique to each moral situation, and LG thinks there is the correct answer which can be deduced for every moral situation based off a finite set of guidelines. CG thinks that the later belief is ridiculous because the number of situations is infinite and each situation so unique, that the only way to do the right thing is rely as best you can on your own wisdom and make a personal judgement. LG thinks that is ridiculous since mortal wisdom is finite and prone to folly, and the only true guide is to rely on the wisdom imparted down to you from a being/institution/society/teacher far greater than yourself - even if in your own reason you can't understand why this course of action is for the best. But its not like either thinks that 'good' is relative in the sense of there being mutually exclusive outcomes which are equally good. [/QUOTE]
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