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Message: <blockquote data-quote="scadgrad" data-source="post: 3870746" data-attributes="member: 766">Getting players interested? How 'bout this, pick up a copy of one of the old classics, maybe a supermod like Scourge of the Slavelords or ToEE (currently running it myself) and see if that won't get some interest. I've been running C&C since the playtest days and we always tacked on stats and ability boosts as suggested up thread. In my current campaign, we made feats available via swapout and did away w/ ability boost every 4th level. Instead, I just allowed characters to use the method VI in the original 1st ed. UA or if those didn't produce "God Stats" just put whatever numbers sound good in there. Result=Ecstatic players and big fun for everyone involved. Prep time=read module.I'm a 40-something father of 3 small children (all 6 and under) with a demanding job and no time to stay up on the "power builds" that 3.X requires. 3.X doesn't work for me, but parts of it are handy and I'm very thankful that it made C&C possible so I can easily use my massive 1st ed and 2nd ed materials. I'll take a look at 4th, but C&C is where I'm at for the forseeable future.</blockquote>