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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7659950" data-attributes="member: 15700">Um...there's not much difference in what I said, at least in how it impacts my point.&nbsp; Whether you managed projects yourself, or were directly involved in the project is what I was getting at.&nbsp; I.e, having at least some experience in how the project management process goes.&nbsp; And if you work with the project managers on a daily basis, than I'm assuming you're more than familiar with the project lifecycle, whether your company followed Integrated Methodology or some other process.&nbsp; In my experience, regardless of the &quot;official&quot; process you follow, they're all pretty much the same, from inception, to requirements drafting, to BRDs, FSD, MDDs, etc. all the way up to production rollout.&nbsp; And since I'm assuming you know all this (since you said you interact with them on a daily basis), you must know just how lengthy and detailed a process like that is.And to be honest, if we're going to go by what people said, you clearly were talking about things other than just PDFs.&nbsp; In fact, the first two things on your list were an OGL and software like a character generator.&nbsp; Then you also made several posts after that talking specifically about tools like a character generator, and not PDFs.&nbsp; I'll also note that in my post you quoted, I was talking about OGL and software, and not things like PDFs, so why you chose to ignore what you posted earlier and what I was replying to and instead focus only on PDFs is a bit odd to me.&nbsp; It addresses nothing I said for one.&nbsp; Secondly, it appears to me as massive goal post shifting, from &quot;here's a list of things&quot; to &quot;here's just one thing&quot;.So you're accusing them of dropping the ball massively, but haven't been able to refute anything I've said regarding two of the most important things on your list as to why they actually haven't in fact, &quot;dropped the ball&quot;---licensing and software.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7659950, member: 15700"] Um...there's not much difference in what I said, at least in how it impacts my point. Whether you managed projects yourself, or were directly involved in the project is what I was getting at. I.e, having at least some experience in how the project management process goes. And if you work with the project managers on a daily basis, than I'm assuming you're more than familiar with the project lifecycle, whether your company followed Integrated Methodology or some other process. In my experience, regardless of the "official" process you follow, they're all pretty much the same, from inception, to requirements drafting, to BRDs, FSD, MDDs, etc. all the way up to production rollout. And since I'm assuming you know all this (since you said you interact with them on a daily basis), you must know just how lengthy and detailed a process like that is. And to be honest, if we're going to go by what people said, you clearly were talking about things other than just PDFs. In fact, the first two things on your list were an OGL and software like a character generator. Then you also made several posts after that talking specifically about tools like a character generator, and not PDFs. I'll also note that in my post you quoted, I was talking about OGL and software, and not things like PDFs, so why you chose to ignore what you posted earlier and what I was replying to and instead focus only on PDFs is a bit odd to me. It addresses nothing I said for one. Secondly, it appears to me as massive goal post shifting, from "here's a list of things" to "here's just one thing". So you're accusing them of dropping the ball massively, but haven't been able to refute anything I've said regarding two of the most important things on [i]your[/i] list as to why they actually haven't in fact, "dropped the ball"---licensing and software. [/QUOTE]

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