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<blockquote data-quote="Mark CMG" data-source="post: 7660710" data-attributes="member: 10479"><p>No doubt, yet it has to be the goal for the industry leader.</p><p></p><p>I don't think they go into development of a new edition of D&D even considering that it might fall on its face. And, let's face it, to even have simple tools at all at some stage, the work and the money commitment has to be budgeted long before the release even if they *aren't* going to have the tools available until somewhere down the road.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So (and I know this isn't something you are necessarily arguing against, Dausuul) the question becomes, does it help the new edition to have digital tools in place concurrent with the edition release more than if you make the customers of the new edition (mind you, your best customers who are early adopters) wait until who-knows-when?</p><p></p><p>And you're right that we know they tried multiple times to get some tools right for 3.XE at various stages but, by every best guess, the tools were a huge revenue stream for 4E with the subscription-based digital tools. So, I have no idea why anyone would think there is a more compelling argument NOT to do their best and plan to have tools ready to launch alongside the edition release in this era.</p><p></p><p>Do we have any guesses how many core books were sold and what sort of money was made from them? Millions? What of the DDI? I don't think I opened a thread for four or five years where someone didn't mention the number of visible subscriptions and it seems that anyone could calculate roughly what a monthly fee times the number of subscriptions time however many months they were in operation to figure out the millions it brought in. Given that the life cycle of an edition is limited to, let's say, five to seven years, why would you shave a year off the front of that potential revenue stream? Did the experience of 4E DDI not get them prepared to have tools in place at launch? I just don't get it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark CMG, post: 7660710, member: 10479"] No doubt, yet it has to be the goal for the industry leader. I don't think they go into development of a new edition of D&D even considering that it might fall on its face. And, let's face it, to even have simple tools at all at some stage, the work and the money commitment has to be budgeted long before the release even if they *aren't* going to have the tools available until somewhere down the road. So (and I know this isn't something you are necessarily arguing against, Dausuul) the question becomes, does it help the new edition to have digital tools in place concurrent with the edition release more than if you make the customers of the new edition (mind you, your best customers who are early adopters) wait until who-knows-when? And you're right that we know they tried multiple times to get some tools right for 3.XE at various stages but, by every best guess, the tools were a huge revenue stream for 4E with the subscription-based digital tools. So, I have no idea why anyone would think there is a more compelling argument NOT to do their best and plan to have tools ready to launch alongside the edition release in this era. Do we have any guesses how many core books were sold and what sort of money was made from them? Millions? What of the DDI? I don't think I opened a thread for four or five years where someone didn't mention the number of visible subscriptions and it seems that anyone could calculate roughly what a monthly fee times the number of subscriptions time however many months they were in operation to figure out the millions it brought in. Given that the life cycle of an edition is limited to, let's say, five to seven years, why would you shave a year off the front of that potential revenue stream? Did the experience of 4E DDI not get them prepared to have tools in place at launch? I just don't get it. [/QUOTE]
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