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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 4483596" data-attributes="member: 58197">Wasn't known to me, but it makes sense.&nbsp; I'll have to consider it.I do find that minions are &quot;overpriced&quot; at higher levels - that is, four minions do not actually perform as well as a single regular monster.&nbsp; PCs have too many area attacks, even setting aside the ones that auto-kill.However, I recently had an epiphany on this: The only reason minions don't work well at high levels is that PCs have so many AoE encounter and daily powers.&nbsp; And the supply of encounter and daily powers doesn't last forever.&nbsp; Once it's gone, minions become a real threat.So, if you want to use melee minions, set up the encounter with one or two &quot;waves&quot; of minions to start off the fight.&nbsp; Do not count these minions toward the encounter's XP budget (or count them at a steep discount).&nbsp; The PCs will wipe out these minions, but will burn most of their AoE stuff in the process.&nbsp; Then the real encounter begins.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 4483596, member: 58197"] Wasn't known to me, but it makes sense. I'll have to consider it. I do find that minions are "overpriced" at higher levels - that is, four minions do not actually perform as well as a single regular monster. PCs have too many area attacks, even setting aside the ones that auto-kill. However, I recently had an epiphany on this: The only reason minions don't work well at high levels is that PCs have so many AoE encounter and daily powers. And the supply of encounter and daily powers doesn't last forever. Once it's gone, minions become a real threat. So, if you want to use melee minions, set up the encounter with one or two "waves" of minions to start off the fight. Do [I]not[/I] count these minions toward the encounter's XP budget (or count them at a steep discount). The PCs will wipe out these minions, but will burn most of their AoE stuff in the process. Then the real encounter begins. [/QUOTE]

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