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California bill (AB 412) would effectively ban open-source generative AI
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<blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 9653394" data-attributes="member: 42856"><p>Yes, it is one of the way to resolve the problem with the datasets. Much like the State limits the scope of physical ownership for the common good (depending on where you are, you can't own air, the subsoil, other people, game...), some can choose to limit the scope of intellectual ownership for the common good (so you can't own the right to oppose AI training, or the right to oppose parody, and so on...).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. The amount of images available for training (from various source, even if one were to not live in a place where scraping is allowed):</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Licensed through hosting websites,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Public domain works,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Database of images specifically made under permissive licenses,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Images distribued from public learning institutions...</li> </ul><p>Is enough to train models without resorting to image datamining. One of the most probable outcome of the opposition to data scraping is that models trained on non-scraped content will progressively replace everything else in countries that don't allow scraping, so anyone will be able o get AI images from nearly free but based on the aforementioned content as a substitute for scraped contents. It will have no net effect on artists, except that instead of being replaced by AI trained on their work, they will be replaced by AI trained on other's work.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I remember that, they nearly replaced drink coasters at the time!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jfdlsjfd, post: 9653394, member: 42856"] Yes, it is one of the way to resolve the problem with the datasets. Much like the State limits the scope of physical ownership for the common good (depending on where you are, you can't own air, the subsoil, other people, game...), some can choose to limit the scope of intellectual ownership for the common good (so you can't own the right to oppose AI training, or the right to oppose parody, and so on...). Yes. The amount of images available for training (from various source, even if one were to not live in a place where scraping is allowed): [LIST] [*]Licensed through hosting websites, [*]Public domain works, [*]Database of images specifically made under permissive licenses, [*]Images distribued from public learning institutions... [/LIST] Is enough to train models without resorting to image datamining. One of the most probable outcome of the opposition to data scraping is that models trained on non-scraped content will progressively replace everything else in countries that don't allow scraping, so anyone will be able o get AI images from nearly free but based on the aforementioned content as a substitute for scraped contents. It will have no net effect on artists, except that instead of being replaced by AI trained on their work, they will be replaced by AI trained on other's work. I remember that, they nearly replaced drink coasters at the time! [/QUOTE]
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