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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 3648165" data-attributes="member: 31734">It is an effect, but what I'm saying is that it was created at the time of casting.&nbsp; All that is required later is to call it down, which is undefined.&nbsp; You may choose to interpret that as creating the lightning bolt on the spot.&nbsp; Someone else could choose to say that the lightning bolts are all created at casting time and fly above the caster's head somewhere.&nbsp; Who's right?&nbsp; Either person, as long as their choice of flavor does not restrict others if a rule is decided from that flavor.&nbsp; Why can't I choose the flavor description of actually calling down the bolts verbally, e.g. &quot;Come on, down, bolt #3, you're on the Price is Right!&quot;&nbsp; It's purely verbal, the bolts somehow understand, and we're good to go.&nbsp; And now when we get to the AMF rule, my interpretation allows me to call lightning, because I just need to talk, expending a standard action to do it.&nbsp;Back up my claims?&nbsp; Are you joking? Perhaps you've forgotten that my claim was that the rules are silent on AMF blocking line of effect.&nbsp; To prove they're silent, then, here's my quote: &quot;&quot;.&nbsp; :\ &nbsp;I've already conceded to Dreamchaser's argument.&nbsp; Really, do you need to keep beating this horse?&nbsp;I would say that a summoned monster running around outside of the AMF is definitely giving you a benefit.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 3648165, member: 31734"] It is an effect, but what I'm saying is that it was created at the time of casting. All that is required later is to call it down, which is undefined. You may choose to interpret that as creating the lightning bolt on the spot. Someone else could choose to say that the lightning bolts are all created at casting time and fly above the caster's head somewhere. Who's right? Either person, as long as their choice of flavor does not restrict others if a rule is decided from that flavor. Why can't I choose the flavor description of actually calling down the bolts verbally, e.g. "Come on, down, bolt #3, you're on the Price is Right!" It's purely verbal, the bolts somehow understand, and we're good to go. And now when we get to the AMF rule, my interpretation allows me to call lightning, because I just need to talk, expending a standard action to do it. Back up my claims? Are you joking? Perhaps you've forgotten that my claim was that the rules are silent on AMF blocking line of effect. To prove they're silent, then, here's my quote: "". :\ I've already conceded to Dreamchaser's argument. Really, do you need to keep beating this horse? I would say that a summoned monster running around outside of the AMF is definitely giving you a benefit. [/QUOTE]

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