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<blockquote data-quote="kenjib" data-source="post: 134140" data-attributes="member: 530"><p>Why is this worse for male investigators? I really don't understand, unless you are referring to some form of homophobia but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you aren't because I honestly don't think that you are - especially since the passage refers to a willing cultists as the participant. I just don't see where you're getting at. I think the idea of a woman willingly impregnating herself with demonic spawn is more horrifying to women and I don't really see where men come into the picture.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've thought about this a bit more and realized what it really is that bothers me. It certainly has nothing to do with puritan outrage and I agree that it's not worse than other fates. To me it represents a fundamental misunderstanding of what the mythos are all about - a fear of the unknown. To say that Shub Niggurath is an amorphous mass that has been known to violate it's cult worshippers in unthinkable and unimaginable ways, sometimes impregnating victims in the process is fine with me. In fact, this has a clear origin in HPL's own writing. I believe the Dunwich Horror is the story I'm thinking of but I'd have to check my books tonight to make sure. This is -very- different, however, from saying that Shub Niggurath is a large amorphous mass with a bunch of protruding testicles and vaginas. To me it really reflects of level of adolescent immaturity as well as a fundamental lack of understanding that the true horror of the mythos comes from what is left unexplained. Frankly, my mind can fill in far more horrific images of alien impregnation than being assaulted by a big mound of genitals. This sounds like nothing more than an adolescent attempt at shock value rather than handling the matter in a mature and literary fashion. However, in today's age of sexploitation there's really nothing shocking about it at all, so why do they bother?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kenjib, post: 134140, member: 530"] Why is this worse for male investigators? I really don't understand, unless you are referring to some form of homophobia but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you aren't because I honestly don't think that you are - especially since the passage refers to a willing cultists as the participant. I just don't see where you're getting at. I think the idea of a woman willingly impregnating herself with demonic spawn is more horrifying to women and I don't really see where men come into the picture. I've thought about this a bit more and realized what it really is that bothers me. It certainly has nothing to do with puritan outrage and I agree that it's not worse than other fates. To me it represents a fundamental misunderstanding of what the mythos are all about - a fear of the unknown. To say that Shub Niggurath is an amorphous mass that has been known to violate it's cult worshippers in unthinkable and unimaginable ways, sometimes impregnating victims in the process is fine with me. In fact, this has a clear origin in HPL's own writing. I believe the Dunwich Horror is the story I'm thinking of but I'd have to check my books tonight to make sure. This is -very- different, however, from saying that Shub Niggurath is a large amorphous mass with a bunch of protruding testicles and vaginas. To me it really reflects of level of adolescent immaturity as well as a fundamental lack of understanding that the true horror of the mythos comes from what is left unexplained. Frankly, my mind can fill in far more horrific images of alien impregnation than being assaulted by a big mound of genitals. This sounds like nothing more than an adolescent attempt at shock value rather than handling the matter in a mature and literary fashion. However, in today's age of sexploitation there's really nothing shocking about it at all, so why do they bother? [/QUOTE]
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