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Message: <blockquote data-quote="chipmunck" data-source="post: 878301" data-attributes="member: 10732">weighing in on the topicFrom the original:"You can bash an opponent with a shield, using it as an off-hand weapon."My question, of course, is can it be used as your primary weapon? --- It says specific that it can be used as an off-handed weapon, why would they go to the effort of putting that in if they didn't care what hand you used it with? ---"An opponent can be bashed with a shield, using it as an off-hand weapon. Used this way, the shield is a martial bludgeoning weapon"So, if you use it with your offhand it would be, then concidered a martial bludgeoning weapon. (is how I read it)---I realized something staring at this.... an opponant CAN be bashed...... , using it as an off-hand weapon. ---Try it this way: Using it as an off-hand weapon, an opponant can be bashed with a shield.---Either the guys at WoTC are bad at American and didn't care how they used the American Language in their publications, or they do care, and makes the point that 'an opponant can be bashed with a shield, provided that it is used as an off-hand weapon.'---(I just hope you don't go breaking down my poor american. I am not a publisher, and take much more time thinking my words and sentence structure when actually writing a book.)I love going through DD books and finding those American Language usages when trying to figure out what they are saying to us. I think a shield bash is only logical using your main hand. Especially since if I took the feat ambidexterity, I'd have no 'off-hand' with which to do a shield bash.--You still have an 'off-hand', it just says (PHB pg 80) you 'ignore all penalties for using an offhand.' So you still got that off-hand.I see many of you have invested much emotion in this conversation thread, so I want people to know i am adding an opinion and this is what I got out of reading the PHB. I will go into reading the other book, which I do not currently have, so if any of you have the needed material from Defenders of the Faith, I would really appreciate it. Maybe they make additional calls in that book that would make the PHB more clear for us to read.Thanks for your timeChipmunck</blockquote>

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