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<blockquote data-quote="Tinner" data-source="post: 2520435" data-attributes="member: 19667"><p>That's the real problem alright.</p><p>By constantly conceding to this petulant child they have conditioned him to think that his behavior is acceptable, and he deserves such treatment. Fat chance of changing his mind now.</p><p></p><p>You didn't mention what system you're playing, but if you're having discussions about how many actions breaking a window takes, and this player as you said has trouble with the rules, then you might want to think about switching to a more freeform system. I doubt that will solve the real problem of his behavior, but it might make dealing with his minutiae easier.</p><p></p><p>In fact you might also want to consider killing this guy with kindness. Take a "Yes, and" approach to all his whiny suggestions. Let him see exactly what it would be like if he got his way every time.</p><p>He wants to break a window and chase the bad guy? Fine, it works.</p><p>He wants to try some intricately described technique he knows IRL? Fine, it works.</p><p>He no longer has to roll dice, or really even make any decisions. Any action he takes just succeeds exactly the way he wants it to.</p><p></p><p>This will likely cause one of several things to happen.</p><p>1) He will become bored because his PC no longer has any challenges and mend his ways.</p><p>2) He will become bored because his PC no longer has any challenges and decide he doesn't want to play anymore.</p><p>3) He will thoroughly enjoy this treatment, and stop being so whiny.</p><p>4) The other players will be so disgusted by this that they will rebel and question it, giving you the perfect opportunity to address the situation among the entire group. Explain that you were simply trying to give the complainer exactly what he wanted, and obviously that's going to affect the group - so how can we as a group play fairly so everyone has a chance to be the star?</p><p></p><p>My big question is this. You said this isn't your family. If not, why are you putting up with this group? I mean, you only GM 2-3 times a year for them. Why even bother? Is that little bit of gaming worth it to put up with this guy, and the family that allows him to act like this?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tinner, post: 2520435, member: 19667"] That's the real problem alright. By constantly conceding to this petulant child they have conditioned him to think that his behavior is acceptable, and he deserves such treatment. Fat chance of changing his mind now. You didn't mention what system you're playing, but if you're having discussions about how many actions breaking a window takes, and this player as you said has trouble with the rules, then you might want to think about switching to a more freeform system. I doubt that will solve the real problem of his behavior, but it might make dealing with his minutiae easier. In fact you might also want to consider killing this guy with kindness. Take a "Yes, and" approach to all his whiny suggestions. Let him see exactly what it would be like if he got his way every time. He wants to break a window and chase the bad guy? Fine, it works. He wants to try some intricately described technique he knows IRL? Fine, it works. He no longer has to roll dice, or really even make any decisions. Any action he takes just succeeds exactly the way he wants it to. This will likely cause one of several things to happen. 1) He will become bored because his PC no longer has any challenges and mend his ways. 2) He will become bored because his PC no longer has any challenges and decide he doesn't want to play anymore. 3) He will thoroughly enjoy this treatment, and stop being so whiny. 4) The other players will be so disgusted by this that they will rebel and question it, giving you the perfect opportunity to address the situation among the entire group. Explain that you were simply trying to give the complainer exactly what he wanted, and obviously that's going to affect the group - so how can we as a group play fairly so everyone has a chance to be the star? My big question is this. You said this isn't your family. If not, why are you putting up with this group? I mean, you only GM 2-3 times a year for them. Why even bother? Is that little bit of gaming worth it to put up with this guy, and the family that allows him to act like this? [/QUOTE]
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