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<blockquote data-quote="scott-fs" data-source="post: 247733" data-attributes="member: 5714">It happens quite often, though it's usually before the theme music has stopped playing.&nbsp; I'd say with a combination of a successful &quot;Distract&quot; and &quot;Hide&quot; check, you can get the jump on your opponent.Choosing to submit is completly up to the player.&nbsp; A wrestler who drops below 0 recieves penalties to actions, but once you get to around -20 or so, it's pretty much over.&nbsp; If you have a good Concentration check, it can allow you to keep going by using it with the Recover action.Definately.That's definately another use to the Irish Whip.&nbsp; I'll make a note of it.The basic moves are wrestling moves that all wrestlers train in when beccoming a wrestler.&nbsp; I'd suggest that any of the submission moves, require special training if you want to bring them into your D&amp;D game (ie. Each submission move might be a Martial Weapon Proficiency, so fighters and other warriors automatically have them.&nbsp; Clerics of Kord in this case could be modified to allow them access to &quot;Martial Weapon Proficiency: Submission Moves&quot;.&nbsp; Other characters would need to spend a feat to learn how to properly use an ankle lock, for example.All the other basic moves are no problem.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="scott-fs, post: 247733, member: 5714"] It happens quite often, though it's usually before the theme music has stopped playing. I'd say with a combination of a successful "Distract" and "Hide" check, you can get the jump on your opponent. Choosing to submit is completly up to the player. A wrestler who drops below 0 recieves penalties to actions, but once you get to around -20 or so, it's pretty much over. If you have a good Concentration check, it can allow you to keep going by using it with the Recover action. Definately. That's definately another use to the Irish Whip. I'll make a note of it. The basic moves are wrestling moves that all wrestlers train in when beccoming a wrestler. I'd suggest that any of the submission moves, require special training if you want to bring them into your D&D game (ie. Each submission move might be a Martial Weapon Proficiency, so fighters and other warriors automatically have them. Clerics of Kord in this case could be modified to allow them access to "Martial Weapon Proficiency: Submission Moves". Other characters would need to spend a feat to learn how to properly use an ankle lock, for example. All the other basic moves are no problem. [/QUOTE]

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