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<blockquote data-quote="CrazyMage" data-source="post: 299960" data-attributes="member: 565"><p>We still haven't nailed the real key item--is there an objective reality to the items discussed by religion? Is there a God? What is he like? Heaven and hell? How does one get to each?</p><p></p><p>If there is no absolute reality to these things, then it matters (for eternity) very little what one believes.</p><p></p><p>If there is an objective reality (God is and acts a certain way, whether I like it or not), then it becomes an issue when one rejects that reality. Then you can speak of this religion being Right, and that one being Wrong.</p><p></p><p>Much of current culture and thinking has completely eliminated the idea that there is an objective reality behind any religion, and therefore correct and incorrect religions. Instead, its "Believe what you want, what comforts you, makes you a better person," etc.</p><p></p><p>If I want to speak about what the Bible says (to use the earlier quoted example, "The wages of sin is death" and which continues, "But the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.") and I'm talking to someone who equates the Bible with the latest Tom Clancy as far as containing Truth and Divine Revelation, I'm not going to get very far, though the Word can still work.</p><p></p><p>I can only operate from the position that the Bible is indeed the inerrant, inspired Word of God. This fact alone puts me in opposition to many people in a discussion on religion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CrazyMage, post: 299960, member: 565"] We still haven't nailed the real key item--is there an objective reality to the items discussed by religion? Is there a God? What is he like? Heaven and hell? How does one get to each? If there is no absolute reality to these things, then it matters (for eternity) very little what one believes. If there is an objective reality (God is and acts a certain way, whether I like it or not), then it becomes an issue when one rejects that reality. Then you can speak of this religion being Right, and that one being Wrong. Much of current culture and thinking has completely eliminated the idea that there is an objective reality behind any religion, and therefore correct and incorrect religions. Instead, its "Believe what you want, what comforts you, makes you a better person," etc. If I want to speak about what the Bible says (to use the earlier quoted example, "The wages of sin is death" and which continues, "But the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.") and I'm talking to someone who equates the Bible with the latest Tom Clancy as far as containing Truth and Divine Revelation, I'm not going to get very far, though the Word can still work. I can only operate from the position that the Bible is indeed the inerrant, inspired Word of God. This fact alone puts me in opposition to many people in a discussion on religion. [/QUOTE]
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