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<blockquote data-quote="cjosephs1s" data-source="post: 5715582" data-attributes="member: 6683450"><p>Agreed.&nbsp; Its very hard and time consuming to work out a racial progression for a monster (or even a template with a level adjustment).&nbsp; Our group has been doing this for a few years as we love to play new monsters and it generally takes us as players anywhere from a full weekend to a few weeks to make a progression for something and even then our DM still has to approve it and we consult each other for guidance.&nbsp; So its not impossible, just very hard and the rules aren't exact either.&nbsp; Its a guessing game with this stuff sometimes.&nbsp; This is why you see dozens of posts on topics that involve Level adjustments even if they are just +1s or +2s.&nbsp; The good news is once&nbsp; you get &quot;good&quot; at it (if you can call educated guessing being good at something..lol) it gets easier and can be done in a week or so usually with some help.&nbsp; And there's a lot of help on ENworld&nbsp; and usually people that love to get creative and work through difficult concepts(thanks all!!!)&nbsp; But like Tovac said, you have to know the &quot;rules and concepts&quot; first and know what you want before you hit the drawing board.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="cjosephs1s, post: 5715582, member: 6683450"] Agreed. Its very hard and time consuming to work out a racial progression for a monster (or even a template with a level adjustment). Our group has been doing this for a few years as we love to play new monsters and it generally takes us as players anywhere from a full weekend to a few weeks to make a progression for something and even then our DM still has to approve it and we consult each other for guidance. So its not impossible, just very hard and the rules aren't exact either. Its a guessing game with this stuff sometimes. This is why you see dozens of posts on topics that involve Level adjustments even if they are just +1s or +2s. The good news is once you get "good" at it (if you can call educated guessing being good at something..lol) it gets easier and can be done in a week or so usually with some help. And there's a lot of help on ENworld and usually people that love to get creative and work through difficult concepts(thanks all!!!) But like Tovac said, you have to know the "rules and concepts" first and know what you want before you hit the drawing board. [/QUOTE]

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