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<blockquote data-quote="shurai" data-source="post: 3485654"><p>I like the skill simplification thing, personally, but some of your combinations make suspension of belief harder. For instance, Bluff and Forgery don't have much to do with eachother -- one is a social skill, while the other is about having an adroit writing-hand. What ability score would the skill be based on? I'd jigger it around like this:</p><p></p><p>* Influence (Bluff + Diplomacy + Intimidate)</p><p>* Insight (Gather Information + Sense Motive)</p><p>* Scivening (Forgery + Decipher Script)</p><p></p><p>But I like these as they are:</p><p></p><p>-Acrobatics (Balance + Escape Artist + Tumble)</p><p>-Athletics (Climb + Jump + Swim)</p><p>-Perception (Listen + Search + Spot)</p><p>-Stealth (Hide + Move Silently)</p><p>-Use Device (Use Magic Device + Use Psionic Device)</p><p></p><p>Except I'd change the name of one of them:</p><p></p><p>* Tinker (Disable Device + Open Lock)</p><p></p><p>I rationalize Influence by saying that all three often involve some amount of deception and some amount of using one's force of personality to manipulate another person, though in truth sometimes the manipulation can be using debate rather than lies or fear.</p><p></p><p>The other problem I forsee is figuring out who should get what for class skills. For instance, does the fighter get Persuasion/Influence or not? The stereotypical warrior is scary but not known for powers of debate. I'd be in favor of drop-kicking the entire mechanic (ie everyone has everything for class skills) but that tends to annoy people.</p><p></p><p>Thoughts?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shurai, post: 3485654"] I like the skill simplification thing, personally, but some of your combinations make suspension of belief harder. For instance, Bluff and Forgery don't have much to do with eachother -- one is a social skill, while the other is about having an adroit writing-hand. What ability score would the skill be based on? I'd jigger it around like this: * Influence (Bluff + Diplomacy + Intimidate) * Insight (Gather Information + Sense Motive) * Scivening (Forgery + Decipher Script) But I like these as they are: -Acrobatics (Balance + Escape Artist + Tumble) -Athletics (Climb + Jump + Swim) -Perception (Listen + Search + Spot) -Stealth (Hide + Move Silently) -Use Device (Use Magic Device + Use Psionic Device) Except I'd change the name of one of them: * Tinker (Disable Device + Open Lock) I rationalize Influence by saying that all three often involve some amount of deception and some amount of using one's force of personality to manipulate another person, though in truth sometimes the manipulation can be using debate rather than lies or fear. The other problem I forsee is figuring out who should get what for class skills. For instance, does the fighter get Persuasion/Influence or not? The stereotypical warrior is scary but not known for powers of debate. I'd be in favor of drop-kicking the entire mechanic (ie everyone has everything for class skills) but that tends to annoy people. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]
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