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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Doug McCrae" data-source="post: 4284632" data-attributes="member: 21169">It's personal. All PCs are required at the char gen stage to desire the overthrow of the BBEG. This might be because he killed friends/family, destroyed their home village, is the biggest challenge around or whatever.Go up levels and acquire magic items until you're strong enough. How else? This is D&D ffs. Alternatively the BBEG might have a single weakness, perhaps an artefact that needs to be found or a secret to be uncovered.If I decide here and now to overthrow MicroSoft I doubt Bill Gates is going to lose much sleep over it. The BBEG has plenty of other concerns - real current threats (liches, dragons, demons, 20th level paladins, etc), evil plots to move forward, concubines to enjoy. Five 1st level guys who hate him aren't worth one iota of energy. He'll wait until they become a real problem. After all chances are they'll get eaten by a bulette or something and he'll never have a problem in the first place.Require that they do give you much to hook on to. Otherwise they're really not engaging with the game. Players have to understand that you work on your plots and you need the PCs to be motivated to follow them otherwise the game doesn't function.</blockquote>