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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6682878" data-attributes="member: 2067">Oh, sure, but in a story about a ragtag group of newbie heroes who are trying to stop the alien invasion, if they fail to stop the aliens from invading earth, you want earth to be invaded. It's really unsatisfying if your hero turns to the terrified populace and says &quot;I might die here today! But if I die, know that there's at least...like...50 other people who will hear about and will come running!&quot; And then Nick Fury was all, &quot;Yeah, I called Tony Stark like an hour ago.&quot; I don't know that any of these characters have reached the level of wahoo Mary Sue that FR's heroes have. Again, it's the Wish Fulfillment Setting, where nerds sleep with goddesses and brooding rebels sigh at the injustice of it all.In Dark Sun, the closest thing to a world-saving hero you have are those who overthrew the sorcerer-king of Tyr, and even that, as of 4e, is presented as potentially as problematic as it is redemptive and doesn't actually help the world as a whole much. It's pretty clear they can't do it again.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6682878, member: 2067"] Oh, sure, but in a story about a ragtag group of newbie heroes who are trying to stop the alien invasion, if they fail to stop the aliens from invading earth, you want earth to be invaded. It's really unsatisfying if your hero turns to the terrified populace and says "I might die here today! But if I die, know that there's at least...like...50 other people who will hear about and will come running!" And then Nick Fury was all, "Yeah, I called Tony Stark like an hour ago." I don't know that any of these characters have reached the level of wahoo Mary Sue that FR's heroes have. Again, it's the Wish Fulfillment Setting, where nerds sleep with goddesses and brooding rebels sigh at the injustice of it all. In Dark Sun, the closest thing to a world-saving hero you have are those who overthrew the sorcerer-king of Tyr, and even that, as of 4e, is presented as potentially as problematic as it is redemptive and doesn't actually help the world as a whole much. It's pretty clear they can't do it again. [/QUOTE]

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