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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack7" data-source="post: 5050249" data-attributes="member: 54707">Well, it says it twice on the cover of the Player's Handbook. Front and back. Unless of course the designer's had in mind the idea that what the World Needs is Hit-Men, and accidentally said Heroes by mistake. If that's the case then maybe an editor needs to find a new occupation, or a fact-checker needs a new dictionary.But if you think I'm belittling your point I'm not. I suspect there is and always has been a big tension in the game over exactly what the definition of a Hero really is (I got my own, and I ain't likely to change it cause I've seen it in action, and I kinda like how it works), for various reasons. If you and CB for instance are citing the Anti-Hero as merely a hero of another stripe, that is, not really a villain or not even just a Kilroy, but a kind of Hero with counter or unorthodox methodologies (to standard Heroic ideals of operation), I have no particular argument with that assumption. Or with the thrust of that argument in general. I'm the first to say that clever methods often times make very efficient and effective men. On occasion even heroic ones. Assuming methodology isn't the only thing they got going for them in the Hero department.If on the other hand one means that a Hero is anything somebody wants it to mean at the moment, well, then I'll give you what to me is a humorous little personal illustration of how that actually works out in reality.Once, in my twenties, I was involved in an international licensing agreement for an industrialist who had developed a new manufacturing technique. It was a private offering. Shopped close to the vest. I was working the project (as a broker) when I got a call from a guy saying he was an investor, had the $70 mil needed to take a license in another continent, and could he take me to lunch to discuss the project in detail. He sounded excited and eager about the potentials. So I agreed.I got to the restaurant, found him already there, and he started his charm offensive right off the bat. I know sooner sat down Immediately wanted all kinds of details on the project, and this even before the entrees had arrived. So I asked him, if I could answer his questions would he want to meet my principle and start negotiations on when and how to move the money so that we could start building his new manufacturing plant. He hemmed and hawed a bit, and then some more, and so I asked him, "You are liquid for it, right? Or do you need some time, and maybe help with permits?" Then he told me that if the project was right he had a couple of investors ready to take a 50% share. So I asked him, "Yeah, but do you have any money, and is it gonna be your plant?" To which he hemmed and hawed again, and then finally admitted that he wasn't going to be participating at all personally, he was just there representing his clients, who wished to remain anonymous."So," I said, "you're not really an investor at all, are you, you're just a broker looking for a stake."To which he responded, "Oh, I'm much more than that."To which I responded, "You mean then that you're an agent for your principles and sent here to fish out project details on my clients new manufacturing process, and to engage in a little industrial espionage."To which he looked at his feet, then all around the room, and then sort of smiled at me like a schoolgirl who wanted to ask me out to Sadie Hawkins.So I gave him my business card my tab for lunch and told him if he ever figured out the difference in definitions between a spy, a broker, and an investor to give me a call. Since he never did I'm just assuming he never did...So you see a guy can call himself anything he wants.Proving it is another matter.My point is if you're gonna call a Spade a Spade, then make sure you can really dig with the thing.</blockquote>

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