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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jasper" data-source="post: 1317414" data-attributes="member: 277">Saeviomagy and DMmatt. the 19 is the only thing I remember from the crappy class. Put this way after three sessions the class was the most powerful. But his introduction of the crappy class and then other actions both d&d related and socially got him ban. Oh so I missed 1 or more items from the special paladin when I only a few days to review the book. He didn’t say what class he was going to take so I could focus on it. And I asked him any special surprises. And it my fault!  How about this a player brings in a box of assorted chocolates that he loves to table and does not warn me the three in the top left corner contain coconut. And coconut makes me stick and everyone know that. Then he offers me a coconut lace piece of chocolate. So I get sick because I should have known exactly what each individual chocolate contains????Yes I included stupid stuff Yes I NOW know that. Plane hopping does not work. But if I stood firm and did not give into the whiner I would not had to deal with the headaches.Yeah far be for me to trust the players who have lots of money to buy all the splat books. And TSR to keep the power levels in check.  Of the magic missile machine gun is still imc but after one backfire the players generally only fire off three magic missles per round with it.   Some things are dumb but that is how a dm learns. He does something dumb and then decides to place restrictions. The whole point of this thread is when DMs go against their gut, better judgement and give in to the whining of a player. Any other DMs got tales of woe when you let the players whining get the better of you.</blockquote>

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