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<blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 7629914" data-attributes="member: 413"><p>DMs shouldn't plan outcomes according to some story line...They should set up the dominoes and it is up to the players to decide how to knock them down. </p><p></p><p>If the situation is that there is some raging battle with the BBEG hiding out in his lair and the PCs don't have the resources to make it through the battle and still conquer the BBEG, then provide some means for them to save/recharge resources through clever play. If they don't think of a way or take advantage of the options presented then I guess the BBEG lives to be a villain another day...that's the cool thing about TTRPGs...there is no preset outcome.</p><p></p><p>I find that I don't even have to think of ways for my players to overcome things like this. They usually figure it out. They just finished a lair assault that lasted 3 full sessions where we never left initiative order. I looked at the order of battle at the beginning and thought the PCs were basically doomed if they pressed ahead into a monster tribe lair where the monsters were aware of them and fighting back...but they used control type spells like entangle and flaming sphere to force the monsters to come in small groups, animal friendship to get the monsters' beast allies to not fight and narrow passages to force some of the large heavy damage monsters to fight at disadvantage and won the day. No rest was required (though they sure need one now!).</p><p></p><p>If the PCs clear the big battle then need a rest and the BBEG is still alive, wrap up the session with some RP and then start up the next game with the consequences of that rest....maybe the BBEG makes some moves against the PCs. Maybe he or she negotiates. Or leaves. Or grabs a hostage...take some time as the DM to think about how it plays out. What does the BBEG know about what has happened? What resources does he or she have? What is the most damaging thing they can do to the party? What is the most likely thing they would do? Maybe communicate these things to the PCs through some NPCs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Uller, post: 7629914, member: 413"] DMs shouldn't plan outcomes according to some story line...They should set up the dominoes and it is up to the players to decide how to knock them down. If the situation is that there is some raging battle with the BBEG hiding out in his lair and the PCs don't have the resources to make it through the battle and still conquer the BBEG, then provide some means for them to save/recharge resources through clever play. If they don't think of a way or take advantage of the options presented then I guess the BBEG lives to be a villain another day...that's the cool thing about TTRPGs...there is no preset outcome. I find that I don't even have to think of ways for my players to overcome things like this. They usually figure it out. They just finished a lair assault that lasted 3 full sessions where we never left initiative order. I looked at the order of battle at the beginning and thought the PCs were basically doomed if they pressed ahead into a monster tribe lair where the monsters were aware of them and fighting back...but they used control type spells like entangle and flaming sphere to force the monsters to come in small groups, animal friendship to get the monsters' beast allies to not fight and narrow passages to force some of the large heavy damage monsters to fight at disadvantage and won the day. No rest was required (though they sure need one now!). If the PCs clear the big battle then need a rest and the BBEG is still alive, wrap up the session with some RP and then start up the next game with the consequences of that rest....maybe the BBEG makes some moves against the PCs. Maybe he or she negotiates. Or leaves. Or grabs a hostage...take some time as the DM to think about how it plays out. What does the BBEG know about what has happened? What resources does he or she have? What is the most damaging thing they can do to the party? What is the most likely thing they would do? Maybe communicate these things to the PCs through some NPCs. [/QUOTE]
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